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Old 26th Dec 2015, 07:31
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Oh for gods sake stop spreading bs rumors PLEASE.

They will not offer DEFO positions until the Hk crew have been offered.

They probably will open bases after our EA gets accepted.

Just wait.

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Old 27th Dec 2015, 06:34
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No chance of any more bases, if it makes you feel better and gets you out of bed in the morning then keep thinking it's about to happen. The company have never given a specific date and they never will.
On the other hand if you think rosters are bad now just wait and see 2016 as they eek out every minute of productivity. Every possible flight that can depart 3 man will, every back of the clock repetitive 2 crew because we changed the start time 5 minutes or did a CI 3million flt plan will.
We'll look back at 2015 as a good year 12 months from now.
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Old 27th Dec 2015, 07:10
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Sorry but rubbish, all of it.
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Old 28th Dec 2015, 00:46
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quote: "On the other hand if you think rosters are bad now just wait and see 2016 as they eek out every minute of productivity"

Well...if you think they can 'eek' out any more productivity....I suggest you that if you think sickness rates are bad now, just wait for that little idea to be implemented. You 'aint' seen nothing yet....cough,cough...
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Old 28th Dec 2015, 01:39
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The word is that there are 40 DEFO starting the first quarter of 2016. The question is where will they be based and what is the AOA doing about it if this is really happening.
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Old 28th Dec 2015, 19:37
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DEFO will prob start on new contracts with no prospect for decent housing if they go to HK for command, therefore the base will be full of very senior FOs in the future and very little possibility for HK SO ever getting a Aust base due to no FO leaving.
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Old 28th Dec 2015, 21:37
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I believe Sand Man is correct. DEFOs on base with HKPA option only in HK for command. As command on bases will go very senior, DEFOs will stay on the base for a very long time, essentially locking CEPs in HK. Very few will be lucky enough to escape as they will not be "eligible" to bid for based FO positions.
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Old 28th Dec 2015, 23:36
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Now Dan let's not let the truth get in the way of a good Pprune rumpus...
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Old 29th Dec 2015, 01:48
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Yes Dan, it does... Whilst working in Australia.
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Old 29th Dec 2015, 05:44
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Aussie base will open right after the JFK base opens, Commands on Base thru seniority, we get a 25% across the board raise, a real Seniority based leave system exists, computerized rostering happens, Trump becomes president, Santa comes, the Easter Bunny comes and we get a pilot DFO again.

In other words, I wouldn't hold by breath. But that is just my humble opinion,
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