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taxi officer?

Old 3rd Sep 2015, 10:30
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taxi officer?

Who needs taxiing practice?
Now we might have to sign on early to taxi our plane from HAECO to the gate.
I can already picture myself being called out of standby to bring 4 or 5 planes to the terminal!
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 10:43
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Something for the 900 hours brigade to do..... Shhhh!!!
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 13:12
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We already do.
No credit for RTB.

This is pure genius.
Sign on early morning
Taxi aircraft around all day then fly to tpe.
All for 2 hours credit.

Why stop there?
In between HAECO ferries, why not have unproductive pilots cleaning the cabin? Filling in for a few missing traffic officers? Doing the occasional oil change? Getting an aircraft setup for 3 crew long haul so they can simply sign on 5 mins before pushback?

The options are endless.
Cathay will never have to plan an expansion again!!
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 13:26
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Great, so taxi fuel is no longer an issue.
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 13:53
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Great, so taxi fuel is no longer an issue
Exactly. How does this not completely offset RETI?
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 14:44
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Hilarious. First, it makes a complete mockery of any RETI fuel savings. Secondly, I consider every affected flight as two sectors, great for FTL's ;-). Just when I thought things at this airline could not become any more absurd......
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 15:16
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Maybe we could sell tickets to punters for a trip taxiing around the airport.

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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 16:35
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I have done aircraft repositioning in my previous lives and can assure you that it is fatiguing and therefore should be paid credit hours. Something along the lines of 30 minutes credit or actual, whichever is greater.

It should also count as an operating sector for the purposes of determining max FDP. You will go through most of your normal pre-flight and post-flight checks to do this. Again, it is fatiguing. To get no credit or FTL acknowledgement of this job would be wrong.
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 16:41
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Unfortunately this isn't just an issue of insufficient tug drivers , aircraft on tow have a much lower priority than all other aircraft, and can have very lengthy tow times for cover what is effectively a short distance . A bit like driving through central at rush hour .

Again we come back to the gulf between the crew and the company, an issue for which the company is solely and totally responsible .
Back when we were treated well and we're still enthusiastic about our careers . We probably would have offered to help out. Today not so much !

So yes. you want it done its a sector with credit time
I can see 3 man LRO going the way of the dinosaurs before it even starts
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 20:56
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"BA have their Red Caps, Any Ideas for CX?"

Oh shut up Mark FFS. How about that for an idea?
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 21:26
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If you're in Command of an aircraft anywhere, anytime, you should be paid for it. It's not a flying club (sic) and what would the CAD do if you were to hit something whilst engaged in 'free' operations? Perhaps, if you fancy a quick flight on a nice day you could do it for nothing. Maybe it is becoming a Flying Club after all.
What are these people on FFS???
Anyway, is it in your contract of employment? No - didn't think so.
Don't do it.
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 23:03
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Arfer dent,

That clown MH plans "to do it one evening". I'm sure he can find a G day worker who wants to volunteer and get his name in CX news magazine.

My money is on a certain Airbus DCP who loves self promoting himself.
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 23:34
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I will do it , IF ! all the time from arriving at the aircraft until setting the park brake on the ramp is considered credit hours at 1.14 It's 2 crew after all
Significantly adds to my overtime, plus completely negates most chances for 3 man LRO
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 02:44
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It hasn't become a flying club , it is one. A more appropriate term would actually be ' Flying Circus'
Newsletter with the Elephant smeared over the flight deck sums it up...and this latest missive spells even more desperation
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 03:01
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Well done to the Flying Circus Management!

Are you even capable of destroying the product any more than you have, or are you just warming up?

The company problems are your problems and you created them. Don't look to us for answers as we don't give a shlt any more. We gave you our vote of no confidence in the last questionnaire.

So if you think I give a toss what colour cap a person hides under the airplane with, your aircraft positioning problems and leaning the airline...think again!

Ask the CEO, isn't he supposed to have all the answers?

We clearly have so many Pilots sitting (sorry sleeping) by the pool with nothing better to do than taxi aircraft.
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 03:45
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What a great idea , perhaps whilst we taxi around the place we could fit in a quick circuit or two . Most of us are short of sectors
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 05:27
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Flying circus run by a bunch of clowns.
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 09:45
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I do not see how legally they could do it without paying us, and crew logging the time. Any time the aircraft moves under its own power, there must be a Commander in charge, and it is considered "block time".

I still think it's not going to solve their problems, especially when FDP is close to max limits already, but hey - taxi away and pay, pay, pay.... They will soon learn that it costs a lot more for an aircraft crews' time than just sorting out the problem.
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 10:33
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Taxi Captain

This thread has brought back happy memories of how I used to hang around the Flying Club to see if I could taxi an aircraft across the airfield to get fuel, I was so keen then. Here is another idea. How about a new grade of Taxi Captain for keen young SOs, in fact they could be single pilot too. Nothing difficult about just taxiing around is there??
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 10:46
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There are about 150 tows onto/off stand a day at CLK.
I think the point is, they can either pay you to stand around at the gate for 45 minutes while they find a tug, a tug driver, a tech to be brake man and radio operator and a lookout... Or they can pay you to drive the thing up in about 1/4 of the time.
What's the prob?
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