Jetstar Starting. Chief seeks Pay to Fly Captains?
Here is some recent reporting on the subject...
Is Jetstar Hong Kong push worth it?
The writer outlines the hurdles and the outlook for this year (ie: forget it)
The writer outlines the hurdles and the outlook for this year (ie: forget it)
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"momentarily" means "for a moment", not "in a moment"
Ready!.. now I'm not.... Ready again... Hah! NOT (fooled you) etc
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This time last year there were 8 or 9 JHK A320s parked on the fringes of the airfield at Toulouse all 'cling filmed' and held together with speed tape. By February this year that number was down to 1.
We were told by people (presumably in the know) that the airframes had been sold to other customers.
For the pedantic "fully" contingent, I mean the cling film and not the aeroplane was being held together by speed tape!
On another note, the first time I remember hearing was 'fully' in this context was by LHR Delivery following our 5 minute call, their reply was our airways clearance followed by the request to "Call fully ready."
This time last year there were 8 or 9 JHK A320s parked on the fringes of the airfield at Toulouse all 'cling filmed' and held together with speed tape. By February this year that number was down to 1.
We were told by people (presumably in the know) that the airframes had been sold to other customers.
For the pedantic "fully" contingent, I mean the cling film and not the aeroplane was being held together by speed tape!
On another note, the first time I remember hearing was 'fully' in this context was by LHR Delivery following our 5 minute call, their reply was our airways clearance followed by the request to "Call fully ready."
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Excellent thread drift:
A moment is defined as 1/40th of an hour or 90 sec.
Just so we are all clear on the common terms used for short durations of time:
Shake - 10 nanoseconds
Jiffy - 1/60 or 1/50sec depending on which alternating power cycle you are using
On the flip side:
era - 100,000,000 years
eon - 500,000,000 years
back in the day - anytime prior to the hiring date of the 22 year old sitting next to you.
A moment is defined as 1/40th of an hour or 90 sec.
Just so we are all clear on the common terms used for short durations of time:
Shake - 10 nanoseconds
Jiffy - 1/60 or 1/50sec depending on which alternating power cycle you are using
On the flip side:
era - 100,000,000 years
eon - 500,000,000 years
back in the day - anytime prior to the hiring date of the 22 year old sitting next to you.
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Meeting with an old BA mate some years ago, and giving him a bit of a stir about the long sleeve Nigel's calling fully ready on the HongKong delivery freq, he explained it was, as Max Reheat indicated all LHR's fault.
He said over the years it had become the norm that pre ACARS PDC, when Nigel et al were ready to receive their departure clearance, they would call "Ready". They would then receive and read back their ATC clearance, and whilst not always told by LHR delivery to call back when "Fully Ready", both ATC and Nigel understood that when they were finally fully completely and awesomely ready for push back, a "Fully Ready" call was made and Nigel was sent to Ground/Ramp to request pushback of "THE Speedbird".
Unfortunately, such unnecessary verbiage has spread, and we now hear people crapping on like that in this part of the world too.
He said over the years it had become the norm that pre ACARS PDC, when Nigel et al were ready to receive their departure clearance, they would call "Ready". They would then receive and read back their ATC clearance, and whilst not always told by LHR delivery to call back when "Fully Ready", both ATC and Nigel understood that when they were finally fully completely and awesomely ready for push back, a "Fully Ready" call was made and Nigel was sent to Ground/Ramp to request pushback of "THE Speedbird".
Unfortunately, such unnecessary verbiage has spread, and we now hear people crapping on like that in this part of the world too.
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Navtech chart LHR 10-21 para 1.2.2
If you're not saying "Fully ready" in LHR then you're not in compliance with their regulations and yes, the same words were in the Jepp Charts. I've had to show said page to several oztronoughts over the years after being berated for my use of the word "fully" in London!
If you're not saying "Fully ready" in LHR then you're not in compliance with their regulations and yes, the same words were in the Jepp Charts. I've had to show said page to several oztronoughts over the years after being berated for my use of the word "fully" in London!
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And why do people constantly say "altitude" before reading back their altitude in this town? Cant say I have ever heard of someone mistakenly climbing to FL5000 on departure.
