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And so where is the CAD?

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Old 28th December 2015 | 01:21
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Any chance you could stay on topic?


If you want to keep bashing the new ATM system, there's 2 other threads already running.
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Old 30th December 2015 | 10:54
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Just overheard in a bus, very sad news: one First Officer passed away this morning, during approach in Hong Kong.
It is time for CAD to do something!!
Wake up corxxpt bastards!!
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Old 30th December 2015 | 13:30
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Please don't expect CAD to lift one finger to address fatigue or mental issues.
Your controller has mental problem?
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Old 4th January 2016 | 12:42
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Angel And so where is the CAD?

This organisation is following suite of Captain Mike Davis, RIP both.
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Old 20th January 2016 | 13:37
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Earthquake in CAD

Staffing proposal to strengthen senior management in Civil Aviation Department
(1:00 pm – 1:15 pm)

LC Paper No. CB(4)483/15-16(08)

- Administration's paper on staffing proposal to strengthen senior management of the Civil Aviation Department

http://www.legco.gov.hk/yr15-16/engl...b4-483-8-e.pdf

LC Paper No. CB(4)483/15-16(09)

- Paper on staffing proposal to strengthen senior management in Civil Aviation Department prepared by the Legislative Council Secretariat (background brief)

http://www.legco.gov.hk/yr15-16/engl...b4-483-9-e.pdf
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Old 20th January 2016 | 13:57
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Ah, yes. More managers.
This will solve everything.
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Old 20th January 2016 | 14:02
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We don't call them managers, we use the following terminologies:

Administration Officer
Chief Executive Officer
Senior Executive Officers
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Old 22nd January 2016 | 00:51
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Silly question time
So if the HKCAD is as bad as we all think/know who is in charge of policing them ? Is there any oversight by ICAO?
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Old 22nd January 2016 | 07:56
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What??
oversight by ICAO?? Haa, Haa, Haa......I am going to have heart attack by this laugh. They police themselves by their catastrophic engineers and ITMU. Please don't use the word "police" next time, it is just too entertaining that I can't hold my bowel.
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Old 26th January 2016 | 06:57
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Staffing proposal to strengthen senior management in Civil Aviation Department

'Administration's paper on staffing proposal to strengthen senior management of the Civil Aviation Department' is approved in today's Panel on Economic Development LEGCO.

Details can be found in the following weblink:
LegCo Webcasting System
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Old 18th February 2016 | 04:07
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Although the CAD might be missing, LEGCO is not

Aviation officials slammed over sleepy pilots

Feb 18, 2016 9:59am
Aviation officials slammed over sleepy pilots
Hong Kong aviation authorities are under fire over lax standards after an incident last year in which a Cathay Pacific cargo pilot reportedly was asleep while the plane was coming in to land.

Labor Party lawmaker Lee Cheuk-yan is accusing the Civil Aviation Department (CAD) of not doing enough to address pilot fatigue from overwork, Apple Daily reports.

Lee wants transport chief Anthony Cheung to explain how the captain on a Cathay Pacific freighter reportedly had to be woken by his co-pilot to remind him they were about to land.

The incident, which Lee said is widely known in the airline industry, happened over Alaska in July last year.

The plane landed safely.

Media reports said the captain “appeared to be dozing off” when the aircraft was about to land in Anchorage.

In a written reply to the Legislative Council, Cheung said Cathay Pacific and CAD “found no evidence to support the allegation that both pilots had fallen asleep in any phase of the flight”.

Cheung said CAD regulations cap pilots’ standby and actual flight times at 23 hours after a 2010 review.

He said CAD is studying whether the cap should be changed.

Lee criticized the 23-hour rule as a form of neglect, saying 17 hours of wakefulness already has the effect of 0.05 per cent blood alcohol content.

He said CAD should change the rule immediately to ensure passenger safety.

Cathay Pacific had nearly 1,100 reports regarding cabin crew fatigue in 2014 alone, up 38 percent from a year earlier, Lee said.

The Transport and Housing Bureau said the risk was not as high as indicated since only 29 of those reports needed to be filed with CAD under mandatory reporting rules.

A Cathay Pacific captain said fatigue is a serious issue that remains unresolved while pilots continue to struggle with inadequate rest.

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