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Old 1st Apr 2015, 10:39
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As the fog that was the 7's weekend lifts, I profer the only cell of grey matter remaining....we have allowed ourselves to become commodities...(and Mr Boeing, Monsieur Airbus, Senor Embraer et al have processed this agenda).

And in allowing ourselves to become commodities we are no different to oil and iron ore...subject to the hard and cruel world of supply and demand.

In the eyes of management we are now not a resource but a cost input.

Maybe 400 body bags will change their mind but I doubt it.

May the force be with you...cos it ain't with me anymore after seeing myself moved from the back row to the front row of the chess board.
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Old 4th Apr 2015, 02:13
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MPL P2F Etc.

I am with you on this one. There really should be no MPL. It is a threat to those of us that earned our rating the old fashion way.

Lump P2F in the same boat. I can easily recall a US regional that told pilot applicants that their aviation degree didn't count....they had to get a degree at the "sister school" in Arizona. it was essentially the same degree.
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Old 12th Apr 2015, 22:52
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Oh no, there has to be some ability there
Maybe that's the key......
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Old 13th Apr 2015, 01:33
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When I saw "ticking time bomb", I thought for sure the author meant CX's inability to grow the ASL in light of the A350 delivery schedule. Ironically, the MPL is meant to counter just such a problem. Once CX packs one in (not a matter of if but when), I think their ability to overcharge for tickets will be diminished. Until then, the Management will have no way to accurately value their "proper" pilots on the old Excel spreadsheet.

Tick tock, tick tock...
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Old 13th Apr 2015, 12:15
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The MPL will not work in CX as our cadets join us as Sandwich Officers for 3-4 years. I'll leave you to research the MPL and copy and paste like you do with your Boeing vs Airbus posts.

Unless we take on MPL cadets and place them straight into the right hand seat of our aircraft. I'll leave Curtain Rod and AT to work out the seniority and TOCs on that one.

If we do that then to be honest it is no difference to Lufthansa, Singapore and British Airways cadets as they all.go straight into the RH seat. OK, the difference is they have 250 hours MEIR CPL compared to 70 hours Single Engine time and a hundred or so in a aircraft specific sim that the MPLs have.

Japandwell

It was the A-Scalers and to an extent B-scalers that rolled over and invited the shafting that is Cadets into CX. These cadets will leave after 6 years to pastures new. While many of our senior guys will have to work until 65 or a stroke/heart attack just to bump up their pension.

The clock started ticking Circa 1995. Tick tock tick tock......
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Old 13th Apr 2015, 13:22
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as they all.go straight into the RH seat
I thought AT went into the RH seat.

STP
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Old 13th Apr 2015, 19:31
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....and once they get a PR of course they can buy, e.g. in Tung Chung, no problem at all.
Sure of course they can, if they happened to use their SO salary to save the 3.2 million cash deposit for a R8 million dollar shoebox in Tung Chung, and we won't even talk about the Island or anywhere half decent - that's before agent's commission, stamp duties, furniture etc. that will add another million cash requirement onto that. And of course they won't need a renovation since all Hkg apartments are so beautifully finished..

If we do that then to be honest it is no difference to Lufthansa, Singapore and British Airways cadets as they all go straight into the RH seat.
Yes, on a regional fleet getting lots and lots of sectors - not on a widebody on a long haul roster (777) after not having flown for three to four years with 250 hrs total time, getting possibly one sector a month, especially after RQ. Big difference.
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Old 13th Apr 2015, 22:05
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I was assuming CX would be intelligent enough to put them on the A330 fleet on 4 sector days HKG-TPE-HKG-MNL-HKG to earn their stripes.

But I'm obviously the Muppet who shouldn't put the words CX and Intelligent in the same sentence.
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Old 14th Apr 2015, 05:16
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Point of Order:-

BetPump - you're not resurrecting the assertion that "Curtain Rod" IS RF are you? - Aaaww go on ... Pleese

(Also, STP - stop taking the diagonal thinking witty pills)
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Old 14th Apr 2015, 06:13
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Originally Posted by betpump5
I was assuming CX would be intelligent enough to put them on the A330 fleet on 4 sector days HKG-TPE-HKG-MNL-HKG to earn their stripes.
It's not only the company. You'd be amazed by the number of SOs who absolutely don't want to go to the airbus or the 747.

It's probably true: the less you (hand) fly, the less you're confident about doing it the next time.
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