Cathay on top of safety ranking
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Cathay on top of safety ranking
its the week of reviews and
in the latest safety listing from germany´s JACDEC of the 60 largest airlines,
its Cathay who´s the frontrunner with no total loss or fatal accident since 42 years and minimal serious incidents in 2014..
to me CX deserves this years gold medal of safety for an excellent job.
2nd is EK and EVA 3rd.
Its Malaysia Airlines on the other side who dropped down (quite mildly I think) from 34rd to 57th place..
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in the latest safety listing from germany´s JACDEC of the 60 largest airlines,
its Cathay who´s the frontrunner with no total loss or fatal accident since 42 years and minimal serious incidents in 2014..
to me CX deserves this years gold medal of safety for an excellent job.
2nd is EK and EVA 3rd.
Its Malaysia Airlines on the other side who dropped down (quite mildly I think) from 34rd to 57th place..
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Depends which company does the survey, and where advertising dollars are best spent... QF think they have the title.
What are the world's safest airlines? - CNN.com
Now that QF "still call Dubai home", CX might be in with a chance at taking the top spot next year! How exciting! You could certainly do with some more banners to make Hello Kitty City Pretty!
I wonder how many different airlines have "Best Airline in the World" banners up at any one time during the year? A real competition worthy of note would be one voted by airline staff worldwide. Now that would be credible!
What are the world's safest airlines? - CNN.com
Now that QF "still call Dubai home", CX might be in with a chance at taking the top spot next year! How exciting! You could certainly do with some more banners to make Hello Kitty City Pretty!
I wonder how many different airlines have "Best Airline in the World" banners up at any one time during the year? A real competition worthy of note would be one voted by airline staff worldwide. Now that would be credible!
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I wonder where we rank on the Haddon Cave scale???
After all, thats all there was right??
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Safety isn't simply whether an airline has many incidents or not. There is most definitely a luck factor involved.
These studies need to delve deeper into LOSA-type assessments of threat and error management to have any meaning.
These studies need to delve deeper into LOSA-type assessments of threat and error management to have any meaning.
Well, if we are considering LOSA audits, which Hong Kong airline recently had the best report ever seen in the history of LOSA (over 80 airlines audited) while operating within one of the highest threat environments ever audited by LOSA?
Hint: It is not Cathay pacific!
Hint: It is not Cathay pacific!
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All I know is if my ass gets there in one piece it's likely all the others will too. And it's not too hard to always do the right thing to make this happen; regardless of whom it might disappoint.
Hasn't failed me yet....and is worth more than all the LOSAs and Haddon-Caves in the world.
Hasn't failed me yet....and is worth more than all the LOSAs and Haddon-Caves in the world.
The JACDEC rating is just accidents against RPKs and is pretty meaningless. Finnair came second in 2012 just as a report into their attempt to take off from taxiway A at HKG was released, mentioning they had some serious issues with their procedures.
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I just love how some go on about the massive high threat environment 'we' operate in here in Asia.
Seriously? Flying a fairly new very well maintained jet onto big runways mostly equipped wit ILS is high threat? Oh - its the atc , its mainland and indonesian atc you say...
Whatever.
Try flying a 320 around Indonesia or the Phillipines regionally onto 6000ft runways with no ILS etc etc. What CX and KA do is not hight threat. Its the easiest flying there is with the most support any pilot has ever had in the history of aviation. Thats why youre safest. And obviously your airlines can afford to hire and train good people. Not trying to take that away from you - just commenting on the environment you operate in.
Try operating in South America and Africa, with massive terrain, way more serious wx and much older less maintained airplanes, non existent navaids and atc who are actually really clueless and radarless. Then come tell me about high threat again!!
Seriously? Flying a fairly new very well maintained jet onto big runways mostly equipped wit ILS is high threat? Oh - its the atc , its mainland and indonesian atc you say...
Whatever.
Try flying a 320 around Indonesia or the Phillipines regionally onto 6000ft runways with no ILS etc etc. What CX and KA do is not hight threat. Its the easiest flying there is with the most support any pilot has ever had in the history of aviation. Thats why youre safest. And obviously your airlines can afford to hire and train good people. Not trying to take that away from you - just commenting on the environment you operate in.
Try operating in South America and Africa, with massive terrain, way more serious wx and much older less maintained airplanes, non existent navaids and atc who are actually really clueless and radarless. Then come tell me about high threat again!!
Excellent points.
Having been about the place, I do think the KA operation can be a higher threat but the stressor is the inexperience in the RHS when coupled with peculiarities of the operation- namely ATC and SOPS tailored for long haul and not representing an airline that's a training operation.
Having been about the place, I do think the KA operation can be a higher threat but the stressor is the inexperience in the RHS when coupled with peculiarities of the operation- namely ATC and SOPS tailored for long haul and not representing an airline that's a training operation.
I agree with the above regarding KA and their operational threats but don't forget the threat in CX is---
1/ recency of landings for most LH crew and based crew
2/ recency of operating in and around Airfields in China/India ( and others ) for based crew.
KA are "specialists" in and around China, CX crews on the whole are not as current.
There's a threat for you.
1/ recency of landings for most LH crew and based crew
2/ recency of operating in and around Airfields in China/India ( and others ) for based crew.
KA are "specialists" in and around China, CX crews on the whole are not as current.
There's a threat for you.
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I just love how some go on about the massive high threat environment 'we' operate in here in Asia.
Seriously? Flying a fairly new very well maintained jet onto big runways mostly equipped wit ILS is high threat? Oh - its the atc , its mainland and indonesian atc you say...
Whatever.
Try flying a 320 around Indonesia or the Phillipines regionally onto 6000ft runways with no ILS etc etc. What CX and KA do is not hight threat. Its the easiest flying there is with the most support any pilot has ever had in the history of aviation. Thats why youre safest. And obviously your airlines can afford to hire and train good people. Not trying to take that away from you - just commenting on the environment you operate in.
Try operating in South America and Africa, with massive terrain, way more serious wx and much older less maintained airplanes, non existent navaids and atc who are actually really clueless and radarless. Then come tell me about high threat again!!
Seriously? Flying a fairly new very well maintained jet onto big runways mostly equipped wit ILS is high threat? Oh - its the atc , its mainland and indonesian atc you say...
Whatever.
Try flying a 320 around Indonesia or the Phillipines regionally onto 6000ft runways with no ILS etc etc. What CX and KA do is not hight threat. Its the easiest flying there is with the most support any pilot has ever had in the history of aviation. Thats why youre safest. And obviously your airlines can afford to hire and train good people. Not trying to take that away from you - just commenting on the environment you operate in.
Try operating in South America and Africa, with massive terrain, way more serious wx and much older less maintained airplanes, non existent navaids and atc who are actually really clueless and radarless. Then come tell me about high threat again!!
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Missing Blade, it wasnt KA that made that claim, it was the LOSA guys, but we take your point, different regions pose different threats.
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The GT rating isn't worth the paper it's written on. Bangkok should have written off QF for yrs to come. I'd like to know what statistical analysis was used to come out with that result.
When AA started op again to SYD after 10 yrs away they were questioned by the media about their accident record (Chicago DC10). I guess the AA guy was expecting this as he had the stats to hand. In that 10 yrs it would take all of Australia's airline industry 50 yrs of accident free flying at the then rate to equal what AA had flown in that 10yrs.
On joining CX the Corp. Safety Dept said the US was aiming to reduce (by memory) the hull loss rate to 0.6/million dep, he said to put that into context it would take CX 50 yrs accident free to achieve that.
Having "safest airline" ratings jumping around willy nilly on a yearly basis unless a serious incident/accident has occurred is bs.
Anyone paying heed to anything that Airline ratings.com has to say doesn't know much and must be blind to the conflict of self-interest that is obvious to anyone in the industry in Australia.
Most of these ratings are equivalent to "Best LC" ....."Best Business"......"Best Economy"......Airline etc. CRAP
When AA started op again to SYD after 10 yrs away they were questioned by the media about their accident record (Chicago DC10). I guess the AA guy was expecting this as he had the stats to hand. In that 10 yrs it would take all of Australia's airline industry 50 yrs of accident free flying at the then rate to equal what AA had flown in that 10yrs.
On joining CX the Corp. Safety Dept said the US was aiming to reduce (by memory) the hull loss rate to 0.6/million dep, he said to put that into context it would take CX 50 yrs accident free to achieve that.
Having "safest airline" ratings jumping around willy nilly on a yearly basis unless a serious incident/accident has occurred is bs.
Anyone paying heed to anything that Airline ratings.com has to say doesn't know much and must be blind to the conflict of self-interest that is obvious to anyone in the industry in Australia.
Most of these ratings are equivalent to "Best LC" ....."Best Business"......"Best Economy"......Airline etc. CRAP
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Airline safety 'rankings' are always good to attract the casual reader, and not much else.
The truth is, without a deep study of the company's safety training and operational culture, they're pretty much useless.
Saying an airline is safe because it hasn't had an accident in a while is like saying someone has a healthy lifestyle because they don't have cancer. There is no direct link between the two.
Conversely, the more cynical amongst the statistical mathematician crowd would tell you that the longer since your last accident, the higher the chances the next one will happen soon...
The truth is, without a deep study of the company's safety training and operational culture, they're pretty much useless.
Saying an airline is safe because it hasn't had an accident in a while is like saying someone has a healthy lifestyle because they don't have cancer. There is no direct link between the two.
Conversely, the more cynical amongst the statistical mathematician crowd would tell you that the longer since your last accident, the higher the chances the next one will happen soon...
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The JACDEC rating is just accidents against RPKs and is pretty meaningless.
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The JACDEC rating is just accidents against RPKs and is pretty meaningless.
not true. there were eight different criteria of safety measuring
The JACDEC rating is just accidents against RPKs and is pretty meaningless.
not true. there were eight different criteria of safety measuring