Dakota Bar boycott
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Dakota Bar boycott
Frankfurt based crews are incensed at having to pay the Headland Hotel for storing their luggage and are sending a message to the Headland Hotel management by refusing to eat and drink in the hotel's outlets. Other based crews are being encouraged to follow suit.
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I agree. Forthwith, a form of CC regarding the facilities in the hotel. NO more Dakotas, NO more restaurant. Suck it up for the next few months. The staff will be in revolt within a week or so. Let's show them that we mean business on all fronts. Boycott NOW.
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It's not the staff's or the hotel's fault--just petty chicanery as per the other thread.
A boycott is fine as folks see fit, but I would like to remind everyone the folks working there have nothing to do with this and many are our friends. Whatever happens please don't take it out on them (not that a boycott would be doing this but not being nice to them anymore would).
If you are someone who likes to be angry, please make sure to direct your anger toward those responsible and not toward people who have nothing to do with this junk. Don't take it out on clerks, waiters/bartenders, service employees, ground staff, coworkers or colleagues, loved ones, etc--none of them have changed or are responsible for this. Maybe even a courtesy hello to let them know of this would be appropriate--that things are getting nasty so please don't take anything personally--and that you are grateful for what THEY do and are sorry they need to endure this situation as well.
A boycott is fine as folks see fit, but I would like to remind everyone the folks working there have nothing to do with this and many are our friends. Whatever happens please don't take it out on them (not that a boycott would be doing this but not being nice to them anymore would).
If you are someone who likes to be angry, please make sure to direct your anger toward those responsible and not toward people who have nothing to do with this junk. Don't take it out on clerks, waiters/bartenders, service employees, ground staff, coworkers or colleagues, loved ones, etc--none of them have changed or are responsible for this. Maybe even a courtesy hello to let them know of this would be appropriate--that things are getting nasty so please don't take anything personally--and that you are grateful for what THEY do and are sorry they need to endure this situation as well.
Trouble is, the only other choice is the swill at the Maxim's controlled 'Galley' etc. This has links to the family of a very unpopular previous CEO, who hated his Western pilots to boot. They haven't had a cent from me since they kicked out all the independent stall holders. Oh well, I suppose there is sushi or dried noodles from Pay 'n' Weep.
Funny how they announced this on a Friday, in accordance with good industrial psy-ops practice. And what's changed? The hotel has been pretty full for years and only now storage of a small bag is a problem.
Also, the cabin crew reaction to this will be interesting.
Funny how they announced this on a Friday, in accordance with good industrial psy-ops practice. And what's changed? The hotel has been pretty full for years and only now storage of a small bag is a problem.
Also, the cabin crew reaction to this will be interesting.
Last edited by Captain Dart; 14th Nov 2014 at 20:27.
It might be all about the lockers (a shortage of which is mentioned in the NTC). There were rumours some time ago about taking lockers off the base crew as they had storage available in the Headland!!
After a suitable period of outrage and angry posts on PPRuNe, the company makes a 'concession' by pressuring the hotel to allow free baggage storage: but in exchange for base crew giving up their lockers.
Lion Rock is usually teeming with locals, management patronise Catalina's , and the only real alternative, and only during normal hours anyway, is crap from Maxim's (see my previous post), Park 'n' Shop, Tung Chung or a trip to the terminal.
Boycotting the 'Gay Bar' is a good start, it is mostly patronised by pilots anyway, and a boycott would be noticeable.
After a suitable period of outrage and angry posts on PPRuNe, the company makes a 'concession' by pressuring the hotel to allow free baggage storage: but in exchange for base crew giving up their lockers.
Lion Rock is usually teeming with locals, management patronise Catalina's , and the only real alternative, and only during normal hours anyway, is crap from Maxim's (see my previous post), Park 'n' Shop, Tung Chung or a trip to the terminal.
Boycotting the 'Gay Bar' is a good start, it is mostly patronised by pilots anyway, and a boycott would be noticeable.
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Please don't take this all out on the staff..they earn a pittance and their tenure at CX city is entirely dependent on the trade we give them. A censorship of the hotel management would be a better way to go.
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Guys, a boycott has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with taking it out on Headland staff. Why would you? They are always friendly and polite. This is about taking away revenue, which will and should be noticed by the chieftains!
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Company Good Will
The company is removing their "Goodwill" a little at a time. They will keep withdrawing them 1 by 1. They'll keep announcing new measures that will annoy 1 group more than others but mask it as a problem from a 3rd party.
Next on their list is:
1. Vogue Laundry will now need to be collected within 7 days.
2. Reduce the bus size between airport and cx city.
3. Ground staff to have priority on buses.
Next on their list is:
1. Vogue Laundry will now need to be collected within 7 days.
2. Reduce the bus size between airport and cx city.
3. Ground staff to have priority on buses.
Hey here's a Novell Idea..since all the based crew save them about a million or more a year in housing costs EACH...why don't we suggest they actually PROVIDE more room for crew gear!! The original design at CX city where they had a clean slate in designing fell far short of crew facilities in all respects from day one...can't even get a cup of coffee!!
I think we should apply the same gusto to getting things as 'they' do in taking it away
I think we should apply the same gusto to getting things as 'they' do in taking it away
Yeah that's a good point, we save them around $92 million USD a year on housing allowance. ( 1,000 Pilots x average of 60,000 month )
Wow a big saving....
We sure a **** should get something back for that.....
This obviously doesn't take into account all the other savings we generate directly to the bottom line ( education 13th month etc )
Yep definitely a one way street
Wow a big saving....
We sure a **** should get something back for that.....
This obviously doesn't take into account all the other savings we generate directly to the bottom line ( education 13th month etc )
Yep definitely a one way street
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Boycotting a bar that exists pretty much solely for us, and wearing a lanyard in order to piss off the company. Professional pilots?! Is this really what our forward thinking has come to. God help us if this is the public image we're projecting that's all I can say
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Its was only 20 months ago that at a Fleet forum we were informed that there was to be an extension to the Headland with upgraded facilities and building work was to commence immediately.
I guess that the building work would have rendered its use as a hotel for a long time and so was quietly shelved.
As in business the customer is always right. Right. Perhaps a couple of rooms on the 4th floor could be set aside for baggage storage.
CX is the customer and yet it is CX management who are putting out the announcement regarding the new proposed charge.
However, this is an opportunity for FLT & Cabin to unite and throw this idiotic idea out. Time to make your feelings known to the fleet offices. Time to check in extra bags on all flights, CX management have sown a wind on this one and they will reap a whirlwind.
I guess that the building work would have rendered its use as a hotel for a long time and so was quietly shelved.
As in business the customer is always right. Right. Perhaps a couple of rooms on the 4th floor could be set aside for baggage storage.
CX is the customer and yet it is CX management who are putting out the announcement regarding the new proposed charge.
However, this is an opportunity for FLT & Cabin to unite and throw this idiotic idea out. Time to make your feelings known to the fleet offices. Time to check in extra bags on all flights, CX management have sown a wind on this one and they will reap a whirlwind.
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I don't give a rats $&@ about what the public thinks of me.
No one gives you anything in life. You have to fight for everything you have. Sometimes that fight is dirty. They made the choice to be insulting and they made the choice to pick at us. I am just giving them what they want. If your not willing to fight for what's right. Then you might as well pack up and return to your kings land to toil the soil.
CX is as much my company as it is any mangers. Like them, I want more and certainly have earned it more so than them.
I don't give a rats $&@ about what the public thinks of me.
No one gives you anything in life. You have to fight for everything you have. Sometimes that fight is dirty. They made the choice to be insulting and they made the choice to pick at us. I am just giving them what they want. If your not willing to fight for what's right. Then you might as well pack up and return to your kings land to toil the soil.
CX is as much my company as it is any mangers. Like them, I want more and certainly have earned it more so than them.
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Sorvad has kindly asked us not to make any form of protest for which the company will respond with immediate reasonable and constructive dialogue with a view to rectify any perceived or actual deficiencies highlighted. Thus preventing any unnecessary burden being passed onto the PROFESSIONAL pilot group, as they, our managers, whom all are also consummate professionals; we know, can trust and respect.
Please everyone lay down your lanyards. CARE - ing is not just a four letter word.
Please everyone lay down your lanyards. CARE - ing is not just a four letter word.