Karachi
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: At Home
Every thing about the culture of this airline promotes lying. From the propaganda they spew regularly, to the CP's telling people that to get time off to call out sick. Its disappointing that an organization such as this promotes such a practice.
Joined: Dec 2010
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From: Here ---> X
Oh, come one now. They can't just come up and say they care about their employees...
You wouldn't want the shareholders to think that the revenue potential has been lost just because those pesky employees could be kidnapped or killed?
You wouldn't want the shareholders to think that the revenue potential has been lost just because those pesky employees could be kidnapped or killed?
Joined: May 2002
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From: GC Paradise
The potential to lose an airliner, crew and passengers is not a good way to run a business.
Some would see it as a commercial decision while others would see it as a security decision...the same outcome in this case...folks have different human values which determine their primary outlook to place decisions primarily on either business or empathy.
Your job is to protect crew and passengers regardless of other outcomes.
Management's job is to make money regardless of other outcomes.
Don't expect the two jobs to be always coincident in decision making...
Some would see it as a commercial decision while others would see it as a security decision...the same outcome in this case...folks have different human values which determine their primary outlook to place decisions primarily on either business or empathy.
Your job is to protect crew and passengers regardless of other outcomes.
Management's job is to make money regardless of other outcomes.
Don't expect the two jobs to be always coincident in decision making...
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From: MOON
Perhaps the insurance company offered to continue the policy with a increase rates. It certainly wasn't any care they had for us, or the passengers. We only do things for money here.
Not People. Not Safety.
Money.
Not People. Not Safety.
Money.
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From: Woodbridge, Suffolk
Gentlemen, you work for a company that is managed by a company that told everyone that its ships were no longer calling at Shanghai during the Cultural Revolution because "there wasn't any cargo", i.e. "commercial reasons"
The real reason was that the second officer (the navigating officer on a merchant ship) on a Blue Funnel ship had ignored the Pilot's instructions and, in accordance with SOP, plotted her positions. His notes were discovered when the ship was searched by the Red Guards, and it was six years before his employers, with a lot of help from your employers, were able to retrieve what remained of him him from the gulag.
Please give your employers some credit for knowing what to say and do in such situations; they have been at it since 1863..
The real reason was that the second officer (the navigating officer on a merchant ship) on a Blue Funnel ship had ignored the Pilot's instructions and, in accordance with SOP, plotted her positions. His notes were discovered when the ship was searched by the Red Guards, and it was six years before his employers, with a lot of help from your employers, were able to retrieve what remained of him him from the gulag.
Please give your employers some credit for knowing what to say and do in such situations; they have been at it since 1863..
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From: Woodbridge, Suffolk
No, I do not!
The people who ran foreign mud into China were the Princely Hong, once associated with BOAC.
You work for the Great and Ancient Hong: Cotton, yes, tea, yes, and both of them on a huge scale now, but never, ever, opium or any other illicit substances, neither grown, nor traded, nor carried.
The people who ran foreign mud into China were the Princely Hong, once associated with BOAC.
You work for the Great and Ancient Hong: Cotton, yes, tea, yes, and both of them on a huge scale now, but never, ever, opium or any other illicit substances, neither grown, nor traded, nor carried.
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From: Woodbridge, Suffolk
Right on the wood oil, but I think it may have been soya bean cake, not salt. 
Actually, if you have an idle moment, "John Swire, the Senior" is a good book and could serve as a handbook on how to set up and run any transport business, even today...
sample quotes:
"I write as I speak: to the point."
"The immediate crisis over, John Swire went back to his favourite pastime; drawing up his competitors' balance sheets."
He was originally a cotton merchant; he hitched a lift to Shanghai, in 1867, on one of Alfred Holt's revolutionary compound expansion steamers because he thought that the shortage of cotton due to the Union blockade of the Confederacy might be made up by importing from China. He found that he was wrong about that, but wrote to Holt saying his Shanghai agents were useless and he could do a better job: he was appointed and he did. He founded the China Navigation Company, with Holt as a shareholder, "for the carriage of passengers, troops, baggage mails and goods by land, sea and AIR" (!) in 1872.
Actually, if you have an idle moment, "John Swire, the Senior" is a good book and could serve as a handbook on how to set up and run any transport business, even today...
sample quotes:
"I write as I speak: to the point."
"The immediate crisis over, John Swire went back to his favourite pastime; drawing up his competitors' balance sheets."
He was originally a cotton merchant; he hitched a lift to Shanghai, in 1867, on one of Alfred Holt's revolutionary compound expansion steamers because he thought that the shortage of cotton due to the Union blockade of the Confederacy might be made up by importing from China. He found that he was wrong about that, but wrote to Holt saying his Shanghai agents were useless and he could do a better job: he was appointed and he did. He founded the China Navigation Company, with Holt as a shareholder, "for the carriage of passengers, troops, baggage mails and goods by land, sea and AIR" (!) in 1872.
Last edited by Methersgate; 24th June 2014 at 14:50.