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And now it's Manchester.....

Old 1st May 2014, 14:30
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And now it's Manchester.....

CX to close Manchester....but all done in Good Faith!


Thanks and good night.
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Old 1st May 2014, 15:16
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Frankfurt next.
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Old 1st May 2014, 15:26
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In that case bye bye Cathay...
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Old 1st May 2014, 16:23
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Negotiations

Is it me or does the negotiations process seem like a LOFT?

CX is the sim instructor from hell.
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Old 1st May 2014, 19:41
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Classic.

Apparently, Manchester is the most dangerous city in the UK and the biggest city for gangsters in Europe.

41 Tips on Manchester Warnings or Dangers - Stay Safe!

Cannot....!!
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Old 2nd May 2014, 02:56
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Gee....this won't delay my command...

I am SURE more bases will open..
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Old 2nd May 2014, 07:36
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Great timing, as the bids for LON based deadline had just passed. MAN based FOs particularly screwed over. Well GMA once again shown your true colors.
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Old 2nd May 2014, 09:03
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Sorry to hear it guys - best of luck to you & yours.
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Old 2nd May 2014, 10:43
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Where have the company declared this? The GMA update would have been the logical method of declaring this. Are any slots being offered in Base Area as they did during the AMS closure? Guess the reason for doing this is that they have little demand for freight captains in UK .....
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Old 2nd May 2014, 14:21
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I feel sorry for those crew on the MAN freighter base who thought they were going to slip over to a future MAN passenger base out of seniority.
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Old 2nd May 2014, 16:41
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Classy broadband, really classy!
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Old 2nd May 2014, 17:00
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Broadband-

You Sir are a #[email protected]!
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Old 2nd May 2014, 17:18
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zero sympathy

Sorry but I have zero sympathy for DEC's and/or DEFO's that chose a position out of seniority.

You knew it was a non-HKG base and you knew what you were signing up for I'm afraid....enough said
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Old 2nd May 2014, 17:44
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Cmon, this is totally unfair. Most of the MAN guys are Ex-Dragon Air.. They were based in Manchester before Cathay decided to buy their employer.
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Old 2nd May 2014, 18:13
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Angry

I have zero sympathy for people that have zero sympathy.

More so when they choose to dislike strangers for doing what was on offer because it might have inconvenienced them. It is an irrational dislike of the innocent and will not do.
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Old 2nd May 2014, 23:14
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Blutack. You are exactly the kind of moron this company relies on to keep the pilots bickering amongst themselves.

"Dear Sir,
You are offered a position as .........."

'Um.... no thanks, I'd rather you hire me as a training bond slave SO"

Guys looking for a job take the best of whats offered. If you have a problem with the company, then take it up with the company!

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Old 3rd May 2014, 00:15
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Bravo Spud and Bm

It's so easy for them to cast their angst with a plastic keypad. I've probably flown with these tools that only have the balls to say such things on line. Way to puff your chests.
To think the people just being hired know all of the ins and outs of this job is ludicrous. When I was offered a base (yes, DEFO and happy I never had to live in the 300 sq foot hole your in now) it was never even mentioned to me that being forced to HKG was a possibility. If it ever comes to that, I will have a hard decision to make. But you can bet your ass I will never relish in other peoples plight the way you do.

I'm happy to be on a base, and I'm happy to not be you!
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Old 3rd May 2014, 08:28
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Zero sympathy

I also have zero sympathy for those that have zero sympathy. We should be learning from the mistakes of the past and trying to avoid repeating them. This involves trying to protect every job, and every attempt to victimise groups whoever they may be. The announcement of the base closure after the LHR bid had closed was a cynical move by our new GMA (manager is a much abused title in this case). This ensures that all the grief is far removed from HK and comments such as the "zero sympathy" ensure that we fight amongst ourselves.

blutack, you are truly the LCD and just the sort of pilot that the GMA prays for.
 
Old 3rd May 2014, 08:34
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blutack, you are truly the LCD and just the sort of pilot that the GMA prays for.
Please clarify. His statement:
Sorry but I have zero sympathy for DEC's and/or DEFO's that chose a position out of seniority.
suggests that he/she is the sort of pilot that despises seniority abuse and contract abuse by the company. Hardly the sort of pilot I would've though GMA would be praying for.
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Old 3rd May 2014, 08:38
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Look forward not back

The GMA wants us to dwell on the past and all the things that divide us. Whereas we need to learn from the past and strive to improve things..

Simple.
 

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