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Oasis,
Broadband,
Surely you guys are kidding?No?
If not, no need to negotiate with the company. Lost cause am afraid.
Work G-days to see your kids!!!!Unless you have hips of it, or you are screwing someone's roster or EFP to adjust you lifestyle. There's no good reason to work G's.
Broadband,
Surely you guys are kidding?No?
If not, no need to negotiate with the company. Lost cause am afraid.
Work G-days to see your kids!!!!Unless you have hips of it, or you are screwing someone's roster or EFP to adjust you lifestyle. There's no good reason to work G's.
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My kids need a father they can be proud of, not a scab IMHO. This is something they will remember.
We are facing a time of sacrifice and they will understand. It will build character so they can fight the good fight when they need to.
How many of our grandparents told us of times they caved in for a few bucks to take our father to Disneyland ? Or was it of how they did the right thing to forge a future for us ? Did they remember the bribes and buyoffs or the sacrifices and the strikes ?
How ashamed they would be--and rightly so-- to have a father who sold out for a few bucks.
We are facing a time of sacrifice and they will understand. It will build character so they can fight the good fight when they need to.
How many of our grandparents told us of times they caved in for a few bucks to take our father to Disneyland ? Or was it of how they did the right thing to forge a future for us ? Did they remember the bribes and buyoffs or the sacrifices and the strikes ?
How ashamed they would be--and rightly so-- to have a father who sold out for a few bucks.
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Canonball 1
Would not want soldiers like you in the trenches with me. What happened to dying free man rather then working as a slave? You may just be from a generation that did not had to fight for anything.
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Cannonball,
Are you insinuating that one could be sacked for not working a G day? Why would Shep not have a job? And even if he were fired, there is no shame in being the victim of random termination for "no particular reason."
Are you insinuating that one could be sacked for not working a G day? Why would Shep not have a job? And even if he were fired, there is no shame in being the victim of random termination for "no particular reason."
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A proffer is a totally different reason for working a G. It is helping out a colleague, not the company. You get better compensation and someone else ends up with your G day.
If any of those things are that important to you and you have not been able to get the time off, joker or leave for the wedding, then you are not fit to be flying anyway as your mind will not be on the job, it will be worrying about your mother/sick friend.
What about to go see your mother who needs you right now? Is that ok?
What if your support your friend in the hospital? Is that ok?
What about making it to your sister's wedding? Is that ok?
What if your support your friend in the hospital? Is that ok?
What about making it to your sister's wedding? Is that ok?
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S*xorcist Your behaviour now will mark and follow you into the future. If things become heated history has shown who go's out the door first. Specifically to those with kids... they are dependent on you and people should think of them before risking their job and career. You will never win a true heated battle with management unless you are willing to walk today and go somewhere else. The ultimate freedom.
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Working on G days to try to help out someone or spend more time with kids... Right... Ok you might have a point. But working in the middle of your leave and over easter weekend no less is just above and beyond. Thats more like avoiding to spend time with your family. Was really hoping for the said flight to encounter significant delays due to crew shortage and make the company sweat a bit. Too bad. Lost opportunity.
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there is no shame in being the victim of random termination for "no particular reason."
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Fac6 You are correct... I have thousands of hours on 3 types of wide body jets. You may wish to consider where and under what pay conditions that new job will be! And again slogans get you nothing, they are the dreams of silly men... It is a silly way to show 'backbone'. Sounds like you spent time in a socialist alternative student union... "one ball" LOL.
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All I'm saying is that it shouldn't be black or white.
If I happen to be divorced and my kids are overseas, I'm going to be flexible with my roster to suit my needs and those of my kids.
More money won't make me a better father, being there when I can is.
This is not a captain vs fo issue, just that we live different lives and there are often valid reasons for the choices we make.
What are we talking about anyway, there is absolutely no mandate from the AOA prohibiting anyone from working on a g day or on leave.
I have never worked on a g or leave day, except when I diverted due to a typhoon. That was in my best interest, but I don't think that applies to everyone.
If I happen to be divorced and my kids are overseas, I'm going to be flexible with my roster to suit my needs and those of my kids.
More money won't make me a better father, being there when I can is.
This is not a captain vs fo issue, just that we live different lives and there are often valid reasons for the choices we make.
What are we talking about anyway, there is absolutely no mandate from the AOA prohibiting anyone from working on a g day or on leave.
I have never worked on a g or leave day, except when I diverted due to a typhoon. That was in my best interest, but I don't think that applies to everyone.
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My point was that CC f*cks over anyone who needs to commute. Obviously if you have family in Hkg you're all for CC since it doesn't mess with your life in the slightest.
Of course you're going to beat your chest and say "bring on CC, I'll take the pain brothers........"
Likewise if your going to harass the f/o for working G days, leave him in the seat for 10 hrs etc etc eventually maybe he won't answer his phone on days off. But there's no penalty for the skipper working G days. And once again there's no penalty for one group but lots for another. Did someone on here say skippers don't work G days? Thank you, I needed a laugh.
Any coincidence that the guys pushing for CC are the guys who will tell you in the same sentence they've made enough working for cx that they could quit tomorrow.
The cx pilot body has about as much unity as a dropped bucket of marbles........
Fortunately the AOA GC knows this.
Unfortunately so does the company.
Of course you're going to beat your chest and say "bring on CC, I'll take the pain brothers........"
Likewise if your going to harass the f/o for working G days, leave him in the seat for 10 hrs etc etc eventually maybe he won't answer his phone on days off. But there's no penalty for the skipper working G days. And once again there's no penalty for one group but lots for another. Did someone on here say skippers don't work G days? Thank you, I needed a laugh.
Any coincidence that the guys pushing for CC are the guys who will tell you in the same sentence they've made enough working for cx that they could quit tomorrow.
The cx pilot body has about as much unity as a dropped bucket of marbles........
Fortunately the AOA GC knows this.
Unfortunately so does the company.
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Another Day,
CC may (or may not) be problematic for commuters, but if we're to ever get a gain, then there will be some short term pain. Grow a pair.
I too am a commuter.
CC may (or may not) be problematic for commuters, but if we're to ever get a gain, then there will be some short term pain. Grow a pair.
I too am a commuter.