JNB Air Return
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JNB Air Return
CX748 operated by B744 had to return for landing after multiple bird strikes.
Details sketchy but apparently one engine shutdown and fuel dumped.
Well done to that crew.
Not the port where you want to be losing engines!
Details sketchy but apparently one engine shutdown and fuel dumped.
Well done to that crew.
Not the port where you want to be losing engines!
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From: VHHH Ocean 2D
Perhaps beech bum is trying to Highlight the fact that whether the airport is 6000ft high or 60000ft high, as long as you can takeoff, the performance takes into account an Engine Fail at takeoff. Therefore negating the comment that you wouldn't want an engine failure at JNB compared to an Engine Failure at HKG.
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betpump 5
You use the same technique in JNB as in HKG on a heavy aircraft? No wonder I see so many over rotations out of JNB. Next time, look at your ground speed and TAS on rotate in JNB @ 30deg C. I have heard of 4 eng over temp's on the Bus out of JNB..... Definitely a different environment.
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Trouble is Betpump, out of HKG even at max weight and 30degrees you still have excess performance over that required. At JNB, yes you meet the requirements, but your excess is much less. Even more so on a 340! 
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From Aviation Herald it seems to be number's 3 and 4 engines.
By Simon Hradecky, created Sunday, Mar 9th 2014 20:19Z, last updated Sunday, Mar 9th 2014 20:19Z
A Cathay Pacific Boeing 747-400, registration B-HUF performing flight CX-748 from Johannesburg (South Africa) to Hong Kong (China), was departing Johannesburg's runway 03L when the aircraft flew through a flock of birds and ingested a number of birds into engines #3 and #4 (RB211, both right hand engines). The crew shut the engine #3 (inboard) down due to abnormal indications but kept #4 operating with normal indications. The aircraft stopped the climb at FL150, dumped fuel and returned to Johannesburg for a safe landing on runway 03R about one hour after departure.
A post flight inspection established birds had been ingested into both right hand engines causing damage to both.
By Simon Hradecky, created Sunday, Mar 9th 2014 20:19Z, last updated Sunday, Mar 9th 2014 20:19Z
A Cathay Pacific Boeing 747-400, registration B-HUF performing flight CX-748 from Johannesburg (South Africa) to Hong Kong (China), was departing Johannesburg's runway 03L when the aircraft flew through a flock of birds and ingested a number of birds into engines #3 and #4 (RB211, both right hand engines). The crew shut the engine #3 (inboard) down due to abnormal indications but kept #4 operating with normal indications. The aircraft stopped the climb at FL150, dumped fuel and returned to Johannesburg for a safe landing on runway 03R about one hour after departure.
A post flight inspection established birds had been ingested into both right hand engines causing damage to both.
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Well, that's a load of codswallop! Don't believe what you read in AvHerald it seems.
A little birdie who was very close to the events on that day says he lost two of his larger mates into engines 1 and 4. Eng 1 severe damage/shutdown, and no indications from Eng 4, but upon inspection once back on terra firm, found damage to Eng 4 as well.
A little birdie who was very close to the events on that day says he lost two of his larger mates into engines 1 and 4. Eng 1 severe damage/shutdown, and no indications from Eng 4, but upon inspection once back on terra firm, found damage to Eng 4 as well.
Last edited by Flying Clog; 11th March 2014 at 05:41.
