Type Rating Conversion
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From: leeds
Type Rating Conversion
Hi all, I'm looking for a bit of advice.
I currently have a 747-400 P1 type rating with 300 hours as an FO & 450 hours as a second officer. The rating is on my Hong Kong CPL. Does anybody know the requirements to put this rating onto my UK Licence & if any of my Second Officer Hours count towards this conversion?
I have e-mailed & telephoned the UK CAA with no joy.
Many thanks in advance if anyone can actually help.
I currently have a 747-400 P1 type rating with 300 hours as an FO & 450 hours as a second officer. The rating is on my Hong Kong CPL. Does anybody know the requirements to put this rating onto my UK Licence & if any of my Second Officer Hours count towards this conversion?
I have e-mailed & telephoned the UK CAA with no joy.
Many thanks in advance if anyone can actually help.
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Type Rating Conversion
I'm in the same boat...
Reading on the cap804,part 4 section Q where they state:
"for aeroplane type ratings, 500 hours of flight experience as a pilot in that type" so it suppose to be' only 500 hours on the aircraft (regardsless if they are P1 P2 etc..)
Once they recognise your time on type, you have to go through a skill test with a TRE from il caa or any other EASA state tre (only if its gone through the uk caa briefing)
This what it suppose to be' from what uk caa said!
DD
Reading on the cap804,part 4 section Q where they state:
"for aeroplane type ratings, 500 hours of flight experience as a pilot in that type" so it suppose to be' only 500 hours on the aircraft (regardsless if they are P1 P2 etc..)
Once they recognise your time on type, you have to go through a skill test with a TRE from il caa or any other EASA state tre (only if its gone through the uk caa briefing)
This what it suppose to be' from what uk caa said!
DD
cheers
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From: leeds
Brilliant thank you for your post.
Having read CAP 804, Section 4, Part Q, 'Acceptance of Class and Type Ratings, you are correct, it stipulates 500 hours experience. It does not mention SOtime directly but any time in the seat should surely qualify as 'experience'.
I'm going to try & book my sim at British Airways flight training then send off for my Licence. Hopefully it will get approved.
Cherrs
Having read CAP 804, Section 4, Part Q, 'Acceptance of Class and Type Ratings, you are correct, it stipulates 500 hours experience. It does not mention SOtime directly but any time in the seat should surely qualify as 'experience'.
I'm going to try & book my sim at British Airways flight training then send off for my Licence. Hopefully it will get approved.
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Beeing the UK CAA, or any CAA actually, I would clarify anyway that the 500 hrs can be accounted for and it is 500 total and not 500 P1.
Should it be more convenient for you, I did my sim at LH roughly same price includnd a crew up.
In the company you probably work for, there is a euro based CN who is a JAA TRE and periodically organizes TR endorsment sim sessions at Cargolux.
CAA will eventually answer and, in good old CAA fashion, will tell you read CAP 804 !
Be advised UK CAA only accepted the original logbook or a JAA type electronic logbook, they wouldn't accept logbook copies with company chop and a cover letter signed by the CP or the company online logbook !
They will also need copies of your license, medical, simulator JAA certification, TRE license and JAA examiner certification, FTO JAA certification and that is about it.
All this was from Lasors and JAA era, with EASA and CAP804 something might have slightly changed, have a good read.
Cheers
Should it be more convenient for you, I did my sim at LH roughly same price includnd a crew up.
In the company you probably work for, there is a euro based CN who is a JAA TRE and periodically organizes TR endorsment sim sessions at Cargolux.
CAA will eventually answer and, in good old CAA fashion, will tell you read CAP 804 !
Be advised UK CAA only accepted the original logbook or a JAA type electronic logbook, they wouldn't accept logbook copies with company chop and a cover letter signed by the CP or the company online logbook !
They will also need copies of your license, medical, simulator JAA certification, TRE license and JAA examiner certification, FTO JAA certification and that is about it.
All this was from Lasors and JAA era, with EASA and CAP804 something might have slightly changed, have a good read.
Cheers
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From: leeds
bufe01 thanks for your reply, much appreciated.
Good advice about trying to get the "500 hours experience" clarified. There is no mention in CAP804, it simply states 'experience', so very ambiguous & open to interpretation. Before I go and waste £2,000 I really need to get this clarified.
I have my original logbook, (all signed) and I have a current UK Medical, so hopefully no problem there.
I've heard you can go on a waitlist at BA & as soon as they have someone else in the same position you can go in together & therefore share the cost. The other option is to pay full price & they provide the support guy.
I'll e-mail the CAA & wait for their response....patiently!!
Good advice about trying to get the "500 hours experience" clarified. There is no mention in CAP804, it simply states 'experience', so very ambiguous & open to interpretation. Before I go and waste £2,000 I really need to get this clarified.
I have my original logbook, (all signed) and I have a current UK Medical, so hopefully no problem there.
I've heard you can go on a waitlist at BA & as soon as they have someone else in the same position you can go in together & therefore share the cost. The other option is to pay full price & they provide the support guy.
I'll e-mail the CAA & wait for their response....patiently!!
