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Old 15th May 2013, 01:36
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Iceman,

If it's tiresome... Don't reply. Simple.

Are you saying the A346 does exactly what it was designed to do?

If so, did CX misuse the aircraft by flying it to JFK?

Didn't CX lease 3 A346s specifically for the JFK route?

Do you think the A345 would have done better economically?

If you choose to answer, let's stay on topic.
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Old 15th May 2013, 01:39
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Yes, the airplane looks nice. Certainly, it is the best looking Airbus to date.
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Old 15th May 2013, 02:05
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Please enlighten us cxorcist....what are your credentials? And I am not talking about spending time and browsing through archived Cathay CFPs :ugh

You post as if you have some sort of deep technical insight on everything Boeing and Airbus...but the truth is you know sh!t... but you want to seem as if you know everything. You're exactly like the character Cliff in the sitcom Cheers...Pathetic!!!!

For your reference

John Ratzenberger portrays Cliff Clavin, a know-it-all bar regular and postal worker, he lives with his mother Esther Clavin (Frances Sternhagen) in first the family house and later an apartment. In the bar, Cliff unwittingly says things that either annoy people, motivate people into mocking him, drive people away, confuse people, are inaccurate, or are unnecessary to people.

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Old 15th May 2013, 03:32
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Flaps 10,

Please enlighten me as to what kind of credentials you are looking for? If you are seeking equations and diagrams, you are on the wrong forum. I never went past Aero/Astro 101 in university.

Mine was a simple observation about the A350 wing's chord and the fact that Airbus is putting larger wing (specifically with more chord) on the -1000. Take it or leave it.

I really do hope the A350 is successful, for CX's sake. We are massively invested as an airline in the program.

If you disagree about the A345/6 on the polar route, make your case... I'm happy to debate that. Plenty of information out there to regurgitate. Perhaps a new thread would be most appropriate.

Cheers!

PS - I've never looked at an archived A346 CFP.

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Old 15th May 2013, 04:17
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Flap10.....cliff...!!! Just brilliant..spot on!!
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Old 15th May 2013, 06:38
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@ Cpt. Underpants

Surely you meant "can't wait to interface with it's fatally flawed, un intuitive organic/digital input system"?
You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. The bench level for the "input system" as you so eloquently put it, is based on the A380 KCCU and MFD. I can tell you from experience that the FMS on that machine is by far the best piece of kit of any civilian airliner. No doubt the 350 will be even better. Looking at the 350 cockpit you'll also observe that the OIT was moved higher to be in line with the PFD and ND displays vs. the 380 where it sits considerably lower and is partly blocked by the sidestick. This is just one of the major improvements in the 350 over the 380 cockpit.



To the Boeing proponents, by any comparison the 777 and 747's are great machines. However, as a PILOT (not a bean counter, office boy, CEO etc), all I am interested in is comfort during my hours on duty. That means a comfortable seat to sit on, plenty of space in front of me, a tray to eat my meal on and in the 380's case, the quietest cockpit and cabin of any aircraft in service today. Flying 14 hours in a 380 as crew leaves you considerably less tired than doing the same thing in a 747. So, who the hell cares about the "flying qualities" of the machine. If you've been doing this job for a decade or longer the fun of flying becomes a function of comfort. The 380 delivers on that and the 350 will no doubt be even better.
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Old 15th May 2013, 09:19
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is it just me but I'm getting a hard on !!!!! (hahahahaahaha)

Maverick, we don't have fuel for this........
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Old 15th May 2013, 12:17
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Looks like a Racoon with the Black window frames!!
Looks more like the Space Shuttle, which the Airbus Check and Trainers would certainly relish!!

Otherwise they are going to have to turn up the heat on the engines, which means it will never hit its specs.
The only thing an Airbus engine with the heat turned up will do, is burn your hair.
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Old 15th May 2013, 12:23
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Beautiful aircraft....and hopefully it'll live up to its promises!
Prefer the 787 flightdeck though...
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Old 15th May 2013, 13:58
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Looks like a Racoon with the Black window frames!!
They had to do something to set it apart from the 787. Without the mask, it would be too obvious how much it looks like the Boeing.
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Old 15th May 2013, 14:10
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Update on the real thing, quite different to the rendering.

360 view icon-eye-open | A350 XWB by Airbus



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Old 15th May 2013, 14:13
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However, as a PILOT (not a bean counter, office boy, CEO etc), all I am interested in is comfort during my hours on duty.
Apparently, some enterprising Aviators at AI came up with a work-around for the eternal battle with fatigue:

Air India pilots nap, let flight attendants fly plane - UPI.com


As to the A350's sexiness... on a plane porn scale of 5 boners I'd rate it 2 1/2 boners.
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Old 15th May 2013, 15:41
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Flightdeck still looks like an Antonov.... Good looking aircraft, though, and love that wing!
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Old 15th May 2013, 23:11
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CCQ/MFF

Can't see it happening. Wonder if I'll be able to use my type joker to get on it.
I heard the plan is to crew it with 744 guys as that type is retired from pax ops. Happy campers all round.
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Old 16th May 2013, 01:49
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Cannot see the A350 being crewed by the B747 pilots, as most will be retiring with the ac, and the rest will be remaining on type to fly the freighter.
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Old 16th May 2013, 04:02
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Looks like Airbus added a bunch of extra probes on the nose, just in case the others become blocked with ice!
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Old 16th May 2013, 05:41
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They should have kept the 3 leased A346's to do the JNB run. An ideal a/c for that route/port IMHO.
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Old 16th May 2013, 07:49
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Agree, but they only needed 2. I really liked it, IMHO the best of the three, once it had settled it and the AML/MEL odysseys were over.

It's a shame that AB were so dishonest in their dealings with CX whilst negotiations were ongoing for a new ULH machine. If CXs RFI had been appropriately dealt with, it would have been a different story entirely.

I like the 777 - a lot - but the hot and high performance of a twin has really nobbled the ER for JNB. The 346 could manage JNB, easily, on a hot summers day, full load of punters and fuel to spare...
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Old 16th May 2013, 13:22
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Wrong forum, but what is the likelihood that EK will keep its A350 order and not focus more on the new 777X and A380s? Any predictions?

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