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Old 19th Dec 2012, 13:58
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See the new pattern the cabin crew have got.

HKG-RUH-BAH(PX)-HKG(PX) a casual 23:10 duty stuck on a plane.

There's a second one too going the other way around I believe.
Apparently this pattern has been abolished within 24hrs of cabin crew seeing it on their roster it's back to an overnight with allowances.

If only pilots could get CX to reply with such haste.
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 15:13
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Yes it's pathetic, you bunch of pussies. What have you got to loose? Oh that's right everything, just like the girls have. Get off your asses. Pulls those boxer shorts back and Showem what ya got!! Trouble is there's more g strings than boxer pants being worn around this place.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 00:08
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We are not the face of the airline, if you think the flying public may lack sympathy for the cabin crew now, as the economy is tough. They could not care less for us, even during a healthy economy. Face facts, the job we do up front is not a game changer, considering the fact that many of our asian colleagues do the same job for less money around the region. The fact that we are a safer, more professional and better trained(checked) group is lost on the flying public. until one ends up in a ball of fire of course, but folks don't think like that.
FOP has the lion share of the budget, fuel is our biggest cost. Flight duties are rostered to within minutes of FDP limits.It wont take much to make a big impact on the bottom line. We don't need to stand there with our pants down, it wont work. Most of us lack a set of balls any how and the public won't give a toss. We need leadership,direction and a determination to change. Depending how you look at it, we hold none of the cards, or we hold all the cards. We just need to know which ones to play.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 04:03
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until one ends up in a ball of fire of course
More to the point, when one DOESN'T end up in a ball of fire when it could/should have.

Think Surabaya - HK.
Think Singapore to Jakarta
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 05:25
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They could not care less for us,
You are quite correct, but respectfully, you are your own worst enemy. It may help your case if you were more visible and engaging with the public.

What is the reason behind the lack of rank tabs, ties and hats when travelling to work? Is that CX policy? All I see in the morning is a bunch of mormon missionaries and double glazing salesmen disapearing into the back door of Kitty City.

Raise your profile, then you may get some sympathy.

Best of luck ladies and gents. Nothing wouldn't gladden the heart of this aviator any more than to see you all fighting your corner for a change.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 05:35
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Flight attendants tie up deal with Cathay

Cathay Pacific flight attendants and the airline have stuck a deal ending their pay tussle and other issues.
This followed protracted discussions between the two parties and had threatened to disrupt Christmas and New Year flights.
The Flight Attendants Union chairwoman Dora Lai Yuk-sim said today the deal also involves changes to flight patterns and work conditions.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 07:03
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What? That's it? That's all the cabin crew can get from the company? No pay raise beyond the 2%? So sad.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 12:31
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''All I see in the morning is a bunch of mormon missionaries and double glazing salesmen disapearing into the back door of Kitty City''.

Lol!
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 16:18
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How does an extra $500 make a fatiguing pattern safer?
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Old 21st Dec 2012, 15:14
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Affordable safety! Awesome isn't it
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Old 31st Dec 2012, 01:31
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Well they do get at least 20 hours off before and a G after a night turn, a guarantee of only 1 rostered a month and 5 Gs for doing a 3 day Oz, and 2 nights in RUH to recover, so what have the AOA got us? Oh, and their reserve has a clock start time and I bet credit hours. All without expensive "Labour Specialists" on the payroll.
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Old 31st Dec 2012, 12:26
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Its the AOA GC, why don't they propose contract compliance over this as well as 25yr housing.

When letters get ignored make threats rather than doing NOTHING.

I expect there would be lots of guys willing. Its the leadership of the AOA that baffles me, not its members.
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