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Does that apply to avoiding green returns when flying a freighter? Then why are freighter pilots always flying around green returns? I know. It's because they're too programmed and afraid to think outside the box (no pun intended.)
I have never seen an airline more full of automatons.
I have never seen an airline more full of automatons.
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Oval,
You are right. Our fear of green is just another cxample of being overly conservative for no gain in safety at the expense of efficiency.
Sue,
You are also correct. When pilots do this, it does not help ATC do their job well.
Geh065,
What a ridiculous comment! I suppose we should expect nothing less out of the Airbus fleet office. Do you also exclusively use the auto pilot at the expense your hand flying and landing skills for those passengers so they can have a smoother ride. Yellow should be avoided when practicable, but green is more than OK with the seat belt on, especially when the cabin crew are seated. Sure, fly around green when it costs almost nothing, but the terminal area is not the place for this when there is a lot of traffic.
You are right. Our fear of green is just another cxample of being overly conservative for no gain in safety at the expense of efficiency.
Sue,
You are also correct. When pilots do this, it does not help ATC do their job well.
Geh065,
What a ridiculous comment! I suppose we should expect nothing less out of the Airbus fleet office. Do you also exclusively use the auto pilot at the expense your hand flying and landing skills for those passengers so they can have a smoother ride. Yellow should be avoided when practicable, but green is more than OK with the seat belt on, especially when the cabin crew are seated. Sure, fly around green when it costs almost nothing, but the terminal area is not the place for this when there is a lot of traffic.
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Greetings Oval - Not Like you to flip off on a Tangiential "Freighter Pilot" rant? Like I'm never, ever, sarcastic. Also to whom do you refer when you say "They're" .. (too programmed); a particular subset of the 747 Pilots, or all of them as I believe all but a few, if not 100% are now flying the whole fleet?
Sorry team, back to the ATC incident/useful discussion.....
Sorry team, back to the ATC incident/useful discussion.....
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White None, I have nothing against freighter pilots as I was, and always will be, one of them. My point was that the CX "never fly into green" mantra is so ingrained that even when a pilot is flying a freighter he avoids green. This supports my theory that so many CX pilots are automatons that they can't (or won't) think, "Hey, I'm in a freighter! No need to avoid green today!"
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OVAL - Gotcha - Personally I'd love to spend life flying the freighter, making my own Tea, but to Pax destinations. Aaah Well......
Soz for any unwarranted ranting fm myself
Soz for any unwarranted ranting fm myself
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Yellow should be avoided when practicable, but green is more than OK with the seat belt on, especially when the cabin crew are seated. Sure, fly around green when it costs almost nothing, but the terminal area is not the place for this when there is a lot of traffic.
As for traffic, if it is an issue then ATC will say so!!
My point was that the CX "never fly into green" mantra is so ingrained that even when a pilot is flying a freighter he avoids green. This supports my theory that so many CX pilots are automatons that they can't (or won't) think, "Hey, I'm in a freighter! No need to avoid green today!"
Grow up children.
Yes sometimes I move around suspect looking green returns on the Radar. I've been caught out before entering what we thought was "just a little green smatter" and had a few bumps that wouldn't be appreciated by my pax eating dinner down the back.
IT'S CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE AND BEING A PROFESSIONAL PILOT.
Yes sometimes I move around suspect looking green returns on the Radar. I've been caught out before entering what we thought was "just a little green smatter" and had a few bumps that wouldn't be appreciated by my pax eating dinner down the back.
IT'S CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE AND BEING A PROFESSIONAL PILOT.
