Cathay Pacific Terminates Pilot on Military Disability
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Ejection Injuries
Modern rocket ejection seats give a peak accelaration rate of some 18g, older ejection seats (cartridge) of 23g which is close to spinal limit.
It is not true that to use an ejection seat means disability or a lifetime of pain. There are enough members of the Martin Baker club in Cx to contradict this assertion.
It is not true that to use an ejection seat means disability or a lifetime of pain. There are enough members of the Martin Baker club in Cx to contradict this assertion.
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CX never fails to disappoint it seems, if this is in fact true.
I'm sure he knows this already, but your buddy needs to contact the folks at ESGR and read up on the USERRA laws. USERRA
A cut and paste:
"USERRA also applies to foreign employers doing business in the United States. A foreign employer that has a physical location or branch in the United States (including U.S. territories and possessions) must comply with USERRA for any of its employees who are employed in the United States".
I'm sure he knows this already, but your buddy needs to contact the folks at ESGR and read up on the USERRA laws. USERRA
A cut and paste:
"USERRA also applies to foreign employers doing business in the United States. A foreign employer that has a physical location or branch in the United States (including U.S. territories and possessions) must comply with USERRA for any of its employees who are employed in the United States".
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I don't know the specific details about his case but I'm guessing he lost his HKCAD medical, that's why CX terminated the employment..
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I'm guessing he lost his HKCAD medical
I think you're right CG. If the Docs don't think there is a likelihood of return to work within a certain period they look at your medical license. Don't know how long that would be but I know a couple of guys who were off for a couple of years but they were expected to make a full recovery and did so. Perhaps this poor guy isn't expected to recover for a long time.
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Imad,
The S/O has NOTbeen found guilty as the trial hasn't started yet. CX terminated his contract without a reason.
Word on the street is that's the accuser is back at work. Can anyone confirm this?
The S/O has NOTbeen found guilty as the trial hasn't started yet. CX terminated his contract without a reason.
Word on the street is that's the accuser is back at work. Can anyone confirm this?
''think there is a weight limit to which type of ac you have to declare, pretty sure a F-18 is under that weight category.''
It's 1600kg - and not for commercial flying or aerial work. The F18 doesn't figure on either count.
It's 1600kg - and not for commercial flying or aerial work. The F18 doesn't figure on either count.
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They don't normally bother to terminate people who are on sick leave.
After 3 months full pay and then 3 months half pay, you go on to zero pay. With no pay you even have to pay up-front for staff tickets. So the only cost to CX when you are in Medical Limbo, are your medical fees. I would assume that this Pilot is having his medical care covered by the USN/USMC Reserves etc. So there would be no real cost to CX.
However if they terminate him, they would have to cough up 3 months pay and also the full PFund.
The usual situation is that a Pilot, without Insurance and on zero pay, gets starved out and eventually resigns to get hold of his PFund.
Flying in your spare time is a grey area for Employees. You are not allowed to work for anyone other than CX, and this could be seen as a case of "working and being paid' as a Reserve Officer. All flying hours count against the maximum 900 hours per year permitted under the HK ANO, and therefore you need the permission of the DFO.
I would imagine that if this Pilot had been flying for another Employer in his spare time, and not declaring these flying hours (with regard to his monthly/annual limits), then there could be grounds for a D&G.
After 3 months full pay and then 3 months half pay, you go on to zero pay. With no pay you even have to pay up-front for staff tickets. So the only cost to CX when you are in Medical Limbo, are your medical fees. I would assume that this Pilot is having his medical care covered by the USN/USMC Reserves etc. So there would be no real cost to CX.
However if they terminate him, they would have to cough up 3 months pay and also the full PFund.
The usual situation is that a Pilot, without Insurance and on zero pay, gets starved out and eventually resigns to get hold of his PFund.
Flying in your spare time is a grey area for Employees. You are not allowed to work for anyone other than CX, and this could be seen as a case of "working and being paid' as a Reserve Officer. All flying hours count against the maximum 900 hours per year permitted under the HK ANO, and therefore you need the permission of the DFO.
I would imagine that if this Pilot had been flying for another Employer in his spare time, and not declaring these flying hours (with regard to his monthly/annual limits), then there could be grounds for a D&G.
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eatbush, I could've phrased it better, but that's exactly what I figured....CX has once again terminated someone purely because of some bad press, when he could've done nothing wrong?
(I'm not pretending I know the facts to this case) but the next time if one of us rubs a cabin crew the wrong way, all it takes for her is to catch you in a dark alley and shout rape, end up in some sensationalist paper and you'll lose your job?! That certainly wasn't the case with the Mumbai incident....Does someone here have anymore facts? Shouldn't we be more concerned about this? It seems to have just been kept under the radar....
(I'm not pretending I know the facts to this case) but the next time if one of us rubs a cabin crew the wrong way, all it takes for her is to catch you in a dark alley and shout rape, end up in some sensationalist paper and you'll lose your job?! That certainly wasn't the case with the Mumbai incident....Does someone here have anymore facts? Shouldn't we be more concerned about this? It seems to have just been kept under the radar....
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I know a pilot who had two ACES II ejections and returned to flying fighters both times. I realize the Hornet has a different seat, but his injuries must have been quite severe if it was deemed he would never hold a HKCAD medical again.
I absolutely feel that the full extent of the USERRA laws should be explored and if possible a lawsuit filed. Regardless the outcome, a shameful termination from a shameless group of managers.
I absolutely feel that the full extent of the USERRA laws should be explored and if possible a lawsuit filed. Regardless the outcome, a shameful termination from a shameless group of managers.
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It might have nothing to do with the ejection, but rather the landing afterward.
Then again, worse injuries occur in skiers, motorcyclists, automobile drivers, house painters, tree climbers, scuba divers, people standing around waiting for the bus when the drunk driver plows into them, etc....
Then again, worse injuries occur in skiers, motorcyclists, automobile drivers, house painters, tree climbers, scuba divers, people standing around waiting for the bus when the drunk driver plows into them, etc....
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The S/O has NOTbeen found guilty as the trial hasn't started yet. CX terminated his contract without a reason.
She is back at work and he gets fired without "good cause". The precedent is set and from now every cabin crew member can throw out an accusation in the US, the cockpit crew gets arrested/terminated and the cabin crew go on with their lives without any problem. What has the AOA done about this.
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Hate to burst the bubble for some of you boyz - but you do know that you are working for possible the worst w@ankers in the industry right?? "One Team one Dream"... Don't act surprised! 
Good luck to the guy in sueing these w@nkers
Good luck to the guy in sueing these w@nkers