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Old 20th January 2012 | 02:39
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Old 20th January 2012 | 03:15
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Dan,

Thank goodness you brought that up: I thought it was just me...

Maybe in a typhoon on 25L, but on that lovely day?! And what about the armrest - his elbow is in the air most of the time!
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Old 20th January 2012 | 08:44
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For those who prefer a yoke
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Old 20th January 2012 | 12:25
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This guy must like his mug on YouTube. A320 he likes to stir the pot. F100 he doesn’t like to de-rotate.
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Old 25th January 2012 | 03:10
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Confused

Please don't think I'm taking the Mick or playing Devils Advocate, I'm not. Going back to the point, someone gave the statistic 10-13 G days average for HKG 400 driver - My question....Is that bad??
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Old 25th January 2012 | 03:37
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No, 10-13 G is not bad. What is usually bad is the duties in between the G days.

Nth American freighter patterns for HK based crew may as well read as a line of reserve. They know the day they are leaving, and that's about it. Their rostered return flight is usually followed by O days, so their return date is not even a sure thing.
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Old 25th January 2012 | 03:59
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Despite this being my 2nd Pruning, I'm aware of the NA patterns, life of HKG crews etc. My question, now somewhat more specific is: against what current yardstick do WE think this is bad?
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Old 25th January 2012 | 04:05
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The passenger fleet, before there was integrated flying of both.
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Old 25th January 2012 | 04:19
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Agreed Bob, but ... "Current Yardstick" ... Honestly Fellas 10/10 for anyone optimistic enough to think we can go back to the way many things used to be, and maybe the outflow venting seen on these pages is a cathartic experience for some; however, when my last medical ended up in a long discussion with the Doc about how they should best advise the younger guys coming in who are so angry and stressed then you have to wonder whether we should look outwards not inwards and realize we're just not that badly off?
Okay - taking cover now.
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Old 25th January 2012 | 05:32
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bc,

Did you forget, "freighters are rostered exactly the same as passenger pilots". It's just the disruptions and 12 day patterns that are different.

How can they even say that and keep a straight face?
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Old 25th January 2012 | 15:07
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I'm shocked that you're even surprised at their sheer contempt cxorcist.
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Old 30th January 2012 | 01:22
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Yes, any commonality between the published roster and the real time roster at the end of the month is purely coincidential, on the freighter.
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