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Cathay SO vs Jetstar A330 singapore

Old 10th Sep 2011, 10:35
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Cathay SO vs Jetstar A330 singapore

its pretty simple topic I guess;
Cathay SO vs Jetstar A330 Singapore position.

I have been offered a Cathay SO Transition training interview/testing but I certainly dont like the initial pay scale. seems pretty low, infact 50% of what you would earn as a Jetstar a330 FO position.

So both seem to be located in expensive cities/countries, but one is SO as opposed to FO time, and obviously the money differential.

My question is what is the career like in Cathay long term? And I guess what are the pro's and cons of either Job?

be nice to hear from guys who have done time in Cathay SO position as well as Jetstar 330 guys as well.

thanks.
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 10:37
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 11:27
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There you go, all you local cadets that are complaining they should be on same conditions as ex-pats in HK.......A330 in SIN or A320 in DOH! There's your ex-pat conditions! Go fill your boots.

Or is that too far away from Mummy? No-one to cook your meals??
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 11:32
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Know both company well, 4-5 years as an S/O before before an upgrade to FO in CX on crap pay, or 4-5 years to be looking at a Command on average pay in JQ. No brainer really,but just my $.02 worth
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 14:20
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Take Jeet Sta and build your wide body A330 time. In a few months or a couple years tops, Cathay will be so hard up for pilots they will be offering the original expat benefits to join as a direct entry FO if you want.

FO time is always more useful than SO time, regardless of the pay. Career wise, I don't see how Cathay is any better than JS. At least JS is not limited in their expansion and it is based outside of China. Keep in mind, Cathay is based in China and contracts in China are worth as much as the fuzz you find collected in your belly button.
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 14:23
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Before November 2008 I would have joined CX...now it's a total no brainer... JQ of course...
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 14:25
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If offered a SO or FO position, always take the FO position.

If offered a FO or Capt position, always take the Capt position.

It's that simple...
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 22:26
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take the Jstar

Cathay is a company which is still recruiting on its reputation of the old A scales. Cathay is living on its reputation as a Legacy airline. The truth is that its very close to already being a Low Cost Carrier. At least Jetstar isn't pretending to be a career airline from the 1980's.
Both companies are equally as nasty at times.
If you are going to live on a lower wage it might as well be in Singapore rather than the pollution of Hong Kong.

And most importantly a FO position means that if you don't like it, you can apply for jobs in other parts of the world. A SO position means that if you don't like it you can suck it up, complain and not do much else. Your SO time is close to worthless on a CV.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 00:17
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Question: It appears you have been offered an interview with CX not the job as of the present.... Is that the same for JetStar, interview only, or do you have an actual course date for the FO A330?
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 00:37
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Thanks all for the constructive replies..... except Bogan.

Yeah, gathered as much that FO time is better than SO time but was after the long term career thing possibly, but that has been answered by all, cheers.

FLCHG: I am waiting F/O slot with JQ, but have a CX interview; my gut is saying no to CX for a number of reasons, but beggars cant be choosers until the contacts are signed.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 01:03
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A330 FO experience will offer you career choices.

CX S/O experience traps you at CX & leaves you no career choice.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 02:20
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JJ

Good to see you are thinking about this and I hope many other new guys apply the same critical thinking you have and make a sensible decision. Don't waste your time when others will do it for you.

On on.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 04:37
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Thanks guys, the info is much appreciated.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 04:56
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As a CX SO, you will hold a P2X rating and the hours will be logged in the P2X column of your Hong Kong logbook. This rating and the hours you log are not recognised by the majority of other Aviation Authorities. So if you decide you don't like it and leave, your time in HK willbe wasted career wise.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 05:24
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For your own self worth, job satisfaction, career development and professional pride: Jetstar.

Cathay is at zero going backwards, and if it ever recovers at least you'll at be in a position to apply for a real job with some real contents in your flight bag. An SO at Cathay is no more a pilot then a burger flipper at McDs is a chef.

In all seriousness.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 07:15
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Jetstar.

Then tell Cathay you are unsure of being able to live off their pay so have joined a low cost carrier.

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Old 11th Sep 2011, 07:41
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Then tell Cathay you are unsure of being able to live of their pay so have joined a low cost carrier.

Ooooohhh you guys crack me up. Funniest thing I have seen all week. 10/10.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 11:34
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JJ,

i was in the same position. The Cx package is going to have to improve before they start getting guys with turbine time. They will still get guys flying around in pistons but.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 12:35
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I spent too many long years as an SO at CX. In the end the housing allowance is the only thing that made it marginally worth it.

You won't have that so really it is a no brainer.

Take JQ FO in a heartbeat and don't waste your time like I did with CX.
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 15:09
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If cx still pay for the flight and hotel, come to HK for a free holiday with your wife. Have a bash at the interview, good experience for the future then ask about the package and they will offer you the icadet scale. Say no but if they offered you B scale you would definitely take it. Would love to hear their reaction
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