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Attention Hong Kong Express Pilots

Old 23rd Aug 2011, 04:12
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Attention Hong Kong Express Pilots

Dear All,

I am asking you all for your help. We the management have recently had to cancel flights due to lack of crews. This is really not looking good for our record of achievement and may put my job at jeopardy.
So, I ask ALL crews to please assist me in keeping my position. You can do this by accepting all requests to work on your DDO. Once you move in management and you are given the BIG PICTURE, you too will then understand what we are trying to achieve here.

I am soory I can't share the BIG PICTURE with the rest of you, but in time you will see.

Thank You

The BIG PICTURE.............. I Have It, You Don't.

XOP's............ The Only Way To Operate...........
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Old 26th Aug 2011, 11:09
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What a load of crap.
Get a life and an airline.
Big Picture = A shit run mainland managed crap airline.
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Old 26th Aug 2011, 19:08
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Excuse me,

Could you explain why the Airline is not recruiting pilots please?
I do not understand.
Many thanks.
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Old 27th Aug 2011, 02:53
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After sending those insidious, unprofessional and inarticulate emails back in January, titled, ' Company Culture ' you have nothing but destroyed the professionalism of your flight crew. But it goes deeper than that. YOU HAVE NO RESPECT, absolutely NONE. The crew are fed up by your unprofessional standards or lack of in most cases. You keep preaching the crew dont see ' The Big Picture '. What is all that about ? Again, I suspect its another one of your downfalls as a professional aviator, a term loosely used when in your presence. Just ask the ex HKE boy's now at KA.
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Old 27th Aug 2011, 04:41
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Could you explain why the Airline is not recruiting pilots please?
What do you mean ? Their website advert is still there:
http://www.hkairlines.com/cms/language!searchCareerDetial.action?languageParam.moduleId=10 000289367&clanguage=&country_code=HK&request_locale=en_GB
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Old 27th Aug 2011, 04:59
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They are experiencing the same problem that KAL is: They will not meet their recruiting goals for this year....or the ANA 767 contract operation: They recently had to cancel a new hire class for lack of pilots....or the US regionals are having: New hire classes only 1/2 full....or China is having: T&Cs are going up and up and up as they get more and more desperate for pilots....or EK/QR is having: EK has lowered their mins about 5 times since they started hiring in 2009.

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Old 28th Aug 2011, 10:26
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Is the Opening Post in this thread Satire ?
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Old 29th Aug 2011, 09:53
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Yes, it would appear it was intended to be satire but one cant miss the opportunity to vent one's disgust at an INEPT,INCOMPETENT, UNPROFESSIONAL individual !!
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 06:46
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Can someone shed more light on this company

The minimums are so LOW for the first officer that even a first year regional FO can qualify for the 737.

So, some questions come in mind....

1) Why is this company not getting the pilots??
2) What is the pay & perks pkg being offerered......
3) Is there a bond for non type rated First officers

Can some pls shed more light on this company.
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Old 16th Sep 2011, 08:50
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Senior management thanked him for the mass resignation, this helped the company to cancel flights reduce loses reduce labour costs A vital asset to the company - yeah!

F/O thanked him for creating upgrade opportunities - yeah !

Senior management begged him to stay in management, because:
1) He walked away from a/c wreckage twice
2) He know how to fly the a/c to and over its limits- you dont
3) He is god's gift to aviation you are not
4) Yes - he got the big picture - you don't

If you don't pose these qualities then pls shut up and look up to him.
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 04:54
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You've forgotten the inflight fuel emergency too. Diverted to ZGGG, tried to "beat" a typhoon and asking f/o's to look down from outside the window to obtain the required visual reference on finals....c'mon !! Word on the street he wont be there much longer.
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 08:48
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I 've sent them a resume recently.

Has there anyone been invited for an interview for the A320 fleet, or a class date? Where exactly do they send their pilots for the type rating?
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 09:30
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Would that be 001 (same same but different to 007)?.....
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 20:54
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If you don't pose these qualities then pls shut up and look up to him.

Having a severe case of small mans syndrome, I would have to stand in a rather large hole to look up too him.
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 11:21
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Guys its very very clear why HKA is not getting more pilots.

There are plenty of "adequate" pilots with Jet time who would go - if you paid the same as KA/CX.

They could hire 30 NX pilots in a heartbeat if they really wanted to, Captains and FOs.
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 22:43
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This Tread was for HKE, so are we talking about HKE or HKA? Clearly HKE operate the B737
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Old 20th Sep 2011, 06:36
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You guys are not learning from anything at all.
They pay sxxt pay, you take, it's the game of Singapore INC. These are the rejects that didn't make left seat in Singapore Airlines and all were kicked out of the company due various problems. But that doesn't mean they didn't learn anything from the old company. They are doing whatever they can, for short term gain, and the mainland idiots are oblivious to these tactics since they are dumb and ignorant and too happy to have someone running the show for them.
Bond, low pay, management performance bonus, sound too familiar. Too bad you gwei low and the desperado will take the bait anyway.
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Old 20th Sep 2011, 11:30
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TGOC - correct me if im wrong but i thought bond is illegal in HK -
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Old 15th Oct 2011, 00:04
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Some may have forgotten or some may not know:

even though the EX MAN fails FO's while they attempt to upgrade he has a similar history.

EX MAN failed his first Line Check....

A couple of years later he failed a PC check at Oxford....

aye carumba
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Old 15th Oct 2011, 00:39
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I fail to see you point of view.

Lets get one thing straight hear. I have crashed a couple of airplanes, I have failed my upgrade check twice, ( but let me tell you that was simply cause the checkers where so impressed with my natural abilities that they felt I need to be "brought down a notch or two" before being released to line, I have been told by just about everyone I have met that I am a complete fecken idiot.....

Having taken all this into account you still miss the final difference between me and the FO I fail today

I HAVE THE BIG PICTURE..............

No that we clear up this lets move on so I can continue to be the aviator I am and show them how to be airline pilots..

The BIG PICTURE.......I Have It, You Don't.....

XOP's..........The Only Way To Operate .........
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