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Old 25th Aug 2011, 22:44
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On the Beach, you're right. However, the following quote indicates that punctuation forms part if grammar:

"On the page, punctuation performs its grammatical function, but in the mind of the reader it does more than that. It tells the reader how to hum the tune."

Lynn Truss, Eats, Shoots and Leaves.
To be fair, most grammar checkers wouldn't spot the incorrect use of the apostrophe in this case.

Air Profit. My humble apologies, I feel suitably chastised for having had the temerity to even consider using humour on this most vaunted of bulletin boards. In future, as you suggest, I shall limit my input to serious, intellectual debate and focus on the more important issues.

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Old 26th Aug 2011, 02:40
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It's all in the contract.

BC. So you would have done a boycott, but you were busy wearing their hat ?
Correct kind sir.

My contract requires me to "wear their hat", as you call it, by flying their aircraft safely, efficiently, and in accordance with company operating manuals & procedures.

Nowhere in my contract am I required to attend a presentation at company HQ on my own time to listen to twisted propaganda about how tough things are, necessitating a degradation to the conditions of said contract.
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Old 26th Aug 2011, 06:22
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STP. No worries my friend...you are one of the true entertainers on this site. BC.....well said. No louder message could be sent than any empty conference room....

Many years of 'Commercial Briefings', 'Commitment Days' and other assorted 'briefing sessions' have proven beyond doubt that they are used as a form of psych warfare against us. If you think differently....you really haven't been here very long.
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Air Profit, you're right.

Although Pablum (capitalized) is a brand name for a bland baby food, pablum (NOT capitalized) is something (as writing or speech) that is trite, insipid, or simplistic.

These other guys are dumb-asses.
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Old 2nd Oct 2011, 06:19
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what are the other new destination in the coming 12 months?
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Old 2nd Oct 2011, 07:53
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Zaragosa and Nairobi, November/December 2011.
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Old 7th Oct 2011, 06:53
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Friday, 07 October 2011
Hong Kong-based Cathay Pacific is to launch two weekly cargo flights to Western China's Chengdu from October 12, with the flights continuing to Shanghai before returning to Hong Kong. "It is estimated that by the end of 2011, one out of five of the world's computers will be made in Chengdu," said Cathay Pacific director Cargo Nick Rhodes.
Aircargo Asia Pacific - Cathay adds Chengdu
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Old 7th Oct 2011, 10:47
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I really hope that this pattern will not have a Px ing crew for the first two sectors. Am getting really tired of these three sector freighter patterns.

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Old 8th Oct 2011, 02:43
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No Little Chinese Girl

It's not even about sparing a seat. It's about the PVG ground staff complaining about not having a spare girl, or can't be bothered, to escort us through immigration from the freighter pan and making sure that we don't get lost. Much easier for them for us to just stay on the freighter.
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Old 8th Oct 2011, 03:28
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Business Class

I'm sorry, my contract says business class. So, screw their freighter PX crap.

If it was from a port with no CX or KA passenger service, then interline thanks, unless of course CX want to negotiate an exemption with the AOA for that particular sector.

However, this is a port with BOTH CX & KA services. No excuse. Passenger flight PX thank you.
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Old 8th Oct 2011, 11:44
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Screw all of that. Have a crew that take it to CTU then PVG, overnight with a few DVDs and hooky massage an then operate back the next day!!! Why this obsession with px ing freighter crew. 777 crew you will be inhering all of this crap....take note!!!
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Old 18th Oct 2011, 00:14
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From the SCMP


More Cathay freight routes on the horizon
Airline considers the viability of emerging markets in Europe, Africa and Latin America while it launches freighter services to Chengdu
Keith Wallis in Shenzhen
Oct 17, 2011
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Emerging airfreight markets in Europe, Africa and Latin America are on the radar for Cathay Pacific (SEHK: 0293) as it mulls plans for the launch of new cargo services to a raft of destinations.

Nick Rhodes, director of Cathay Pacific Cargo, said cargo flights to Zaragoza in Spain would start next month following the launch of freighter services to Chengdu.

"We are very keen on Mexico if we can get full traffic rights from the Mexican government, though it is hard to say when that will happen," he said. "Colombo in Sri Lanka may be next, therefore, or another point in India, such as Hyderabad."

Zhengzhou, in China, was another possibility, while destinations in Eastern Europe and South America were "further down the track" and freight routes to Africa including Nairobi and Johannesburg were also under consideration.

The comments come as a KLM/Martinair/Air France consortium is about to launch joint flights with Kenya Airways between Guangzhou and Nairobi in a partnership that could later include China Southern Airlines, according to Camiel Eurlings chairman of Air France-KLM Cargo.

Eurlings said the so-called Safari route could begin as early as this week, depending on final regulatory approvals. Kenya Airways will charter a Boeing 747-400 freighter from all-cargo airline Martinair for the twice-weekly service that will fly from Guangzhou to Nairobi before continuing to Europe and returning direct to Guangzhou.

Sauda Rajab, general manager for cargo at Kenya Airways, said export growth from Guangzhou and Shenzhen alone to Africa was about 7 per cent a year. Exports from the Pearl River Delta include machinery products and consumer goods, while Kenya focuses on exports of vegetables and flowers.

Eurlings, who was Dutch transport minister until last year, described Nairobi as "the gateway from Africa to China", and Cathay's Rhodes said the Hong Kong flag carrier shared that optimism.

Aside from Africa, Cathay has ambitions to fly to Guadalajara in Mexico and Brazil. Guadalajara is a hi-tech and electronics equipment manufacturing centre in Mexico, while Rhodes said customers were keen for Cathay to fly to Brazil.

Decisions about where and when to fly would depend upon whether Cathay could secure the necessary traffic rights, as well as the strength of the relative markets.

Cathay will soon take delivery of the first of 10 long-range Boeing 747-8 freighters. The aircraft is capable of carrying 154 tonnes of cargo, 16 per cent more than a 747-400 freighter, while burning less fuel.

"I pick up the keys this week," Rhodes quipped before flying to the Boeing factory in Seattle. The first Cathay 747-8 was due to be delivered in 2009, but the entire Boeing 747-8 programme, which also includes passenger aircraft, was delayed because of production issues at Boeing.

Four more 747-8 freighters are due to be delivered to the airline this year, followed by five in 2012. Rhodes said the 10 new planes would increase the fleet by 25 per cent.

The extra capacity comes at a time when cargo volumes have shrunk globally as a result of general weakness in demand. Latest figures show the carrier's cargo volumes fell 6.4 per cent to 1.2 million tonnes in the nine months to September as a result of soft demand on the mainland as well as other long-haul destinations.

Thomas Hoang, regional director of cargo marketing at Boeing, said the aircraft manufacturer expected cargo volumes to "rebound next year", possibly from the second quarter.

Boeing was more optimistic on long-term growth, with cargo volumes between China and Europe climbing 6.9 per cent a year until 2030, while China-US volumes would rise an average of 6.5 per cent.

The biggest market though will be the mainland's domestic cargo sector, where volumes are set to soar 8.7 per cent.
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Old 18th Oct 2011, 01:18
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-8F carries 154T? I think not! The spec payload was around 134T, but I hear the a/c extra weight and engine sfc miss has brought that down a bit. That said, the really profitable number is the 16% increase in volume without extra fuel burn compared to the -400F. Happy to be corrected...
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Old 18th Oct 2011, 09:45
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"I pick up the keys this week"....... Really!?!?!

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Old 19th Oct 2011, 23:03
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I heard Guadalajara was cancelled because CX couldn't get traffic rights from Mexico.
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 01:09
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Good. One less sucky destination we have to fly to...
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Old 25th Oct 2011, 21:47
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Zara

New dest Zara confirmed this morning. Days 2 & 5. HKG/DEL/AMS/ZAZ....

GDL not happening. SYD cut back to 2 freighters p/w Days 2 & 7...
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