4 engines better than 2 engines.
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4 engines better than 2 engines.
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...1000000ad21c39____
Cathay Pacific will make the Boeing 777-300ER the backbone of its ultra-long-haul and long-haul fleet, chiefly serving destinations in North America and Europe with greatly improved operating economics compared to the older aircraft in its fleet.
Sorry, but as a passenger I am inclined to choose an airline that has lots of engines and cheap pilots rather than imagining to fly across that vast inhospitable North Pacific Ocean with only two engines, even with the most highly qualified, well rested and best paid pilots
Cathay Pacific will make the Boeing 777-300ER the backbone of its ultra-long-haul and long-haul fleet, chiefly serving destinations in North America and Europe with greatly improved operating economics compared to the older aircraft in its fleet.
Sorry, but as a passenger I am inclined to choose an airline that has lots of engines and cheap pilots rather than imagining to fly across that vast inhospitable North Pacific Ocean with only two engines, even with the most highly qualified, well rested and best paid pilots
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sorry to say, but you obviously know very little or close to nothing about A/C engines and reliability, and the differences between the engines on the 747 or the A340 as opposed to the 777.
Right...more is better....
Right...more is better....
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opinion noted but ignorant and misinformed. you can't blame some of the public for not knowing any better. our industry is one such that the public/industry outsiders always seem to claim to know better than the professionals who work in it.
statistics would argue that 4 engines = the GREATER chance that something could go wrong. but with the incredible reliability of today's engines, even that argument doesn't carry much weight.
i trust my GE90's!
statistics would argue that 4 engines = the GREATER chance that something could go wrong. but with the incredible reliability of today's engines, even that argument doesn't carry much weight.
i trust my GE90's!
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O alohajec,
I see your drift,
You recommend me and my family fly over that vast very cold oggin on a single engine aircraft, Twice as safe as a twin engined aircraft, right?
I see your drift,
You recommend me and my family fly over that vast very cold oggin on a single engine aircraft, Twice as safe as a twin engined aircraft, right?
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Touche.......
Four engines are always better.
Alohajec....I'll remember your GE90 comment the first time I fly into Schemya or Adak with my 747/400 to recover a diverted 777.....after said 777 loses one engine.
Bueno Hombre.......there's a reason better paid pilots are usually....how shall I put it.....better!
Four engines are always better.
Alohajec....I'll remember your GE90 comment the first time I fly into Schemya or Adak with my 747/400 to recover a diverted 777.....after said 777 loses one engine.
Bueno Hombre.......there's a reason better paid pilots are usually....how shall I put it.....better!
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When you discover your relief pilots- and future first officers- are having to share living quarters because they aren't paid a housing stipend enough to cover a private apartment...
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Bueno Hombre...yeah, yeah ... you may be trying to be facetious but i wasn't.
so how far do you want to take it? take a row boat next time? no engines better than a single engine aircraft? your opinion is valid. your argument is moot.
the next time you buy a ticket and fly across the pond and you show up at the airport and sitting at your gate is a 777 (or perhaps for some reason or another there was an aircraft swap had you anticipated a 747/A340) - will you turn around with your family and walk off? kudos to your convictions if you do. but i doubt you will.
Raven11...if that ever does happen I'll buy you a beer. If i come to your rescue though you buy me a case!
so how far do you want to take it? take a row boat next time? no engines better than a single engine aircraft? your opinion is valid. your argument is moot.
the next time you buy a ticket and fly across the pond and you show up at the airport and sitting at your gate is a 777 (or perhaps for some reason or another there was an aircraft swap had you anticipated a 747/A340) - will you turn around with your family and walk off? kudos to your convictions if you do. but i doubt you will.
Raven11...if that ever does happen I'll buy you a beer. If i come to your rescue though you buy me a case!
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I hear you mate....I was just taking the p**s.....
The trippler is a great airplane. Everyone who flies them agrees.
I just happen to love the 747. I was tickled pink to be asigned to the 400 back in 93, and I still adore the airplane today. The "old girl" just keeps on getting better with age....and she still manages to turn heads. She's the Spitfire of commercial airplanes.
Looking forward the -800 coming in October....
I hear you mate....I was just taking the p**s.....
The trippler is a great airplane. Everyone who flies them agrees.
I just happen to love the 747. I was tickled pink to be asigned to the 400 back in 93, and I still adore the airplane today. The "old girl" just keeps on getting better with age....and she still manages to turn heads. She's the Spitfire of commercial airplanes.
Looking forward the -800 coming in October....
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Hey guys
Lets be reliastic, SQ has had this 2 engine statergy long ago and making $$$$$.
Would you guys not want the profit sharing? Food for thought!
Happy landings on B777's
Lets be reliastic, SQ has had this 2 engine statergy long ago and making $$$$$.
Would you guys not want the profit sharing? Food for thought!
Happy landings on B777's
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yeah man, i started out on the 747 and moved to the tripler and was fortunate to stay on it for...now coming up to 10 years. i do agree though, the 744 still got 'the looks' and it's one damn pretty airplane. met joe sutter in seattle last year and to quote him from my book (he signed): "long live the queen of the skies! hope you get to fly the -8."
that would be sweet!
aloha
yeah man, i started out on the 747 and moved to the tripler and was fortunate to stay on it for...now coming up to 10 years. i do agree though, the 744 still got 'the looks' and it's one damn pretty airplane. met joe sutter in seattle last year and to quote him from my book (he signed): "long live the queen of the skies! hope you get to fly the -8."
that would be sweet!
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the 744 still got 'the looks' and it's one damn pretty airplane. met joe sutter in seattle last year and to quote him from my book (he signed): "long live the queen of the skies!
Happy landings!
4E gives:
Better t/o field performance
More operational flexibility:
...Continue to destination following engine failure.
...Ability to carry out 3E ferry to maintenance base.
Makes the pax who bother to count engines feel better.
There was initial pilot resistance to the change from 3 or 4 to twins but they seem to work fine.
The pros know all the foregoing already and also that for Extended range Twin OPs we have additional built-in redundance including never having both engines at the same point in their life cycle.
My two favourite jet transports?
B744 (4)
B757 (2)
Loved light twin on full power take off
Also have 3500hrs on TriStar which had the most comfortable flight deck.
Better t/o field performance
More operational flexibility:
...Continue to destination following engine failure.
...Ability to carry out 3E ferry to maintenance base.
Makes the pax who bother to count engines feel better.
There was initial pilot resistance to the change from 3 or 4 to twins but they seem to work fine.
The pros know all the foregoing already and also that for Extended range Twin OPs we have additional built-in redundance including never having both engines at the same point in their life cycle.
My two favourite jet transports?
B744 (4)
B757 (2)
Loved light twin on full power take off
Also have 3500hrs on TriStar which had the most comfortable flight deck.
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Having rambled through countless midnights on both types I'd have to say the Jumbo gives me a far broader comfort zone. First question when one goes on the Trippler: "Where's the nearest suitable airport?". On the Jumbo it would be: "Can we make our destination?" - and for anybody who's about to hit me with it - of course the loss of a second engine would come into the deliberations, but at least there's an option.
Look at the statistics on 4vs2 and you will still find that most accidents are attributable to pilot error.
Most ships around the world are single engine, stay away from those.
Most ships around the world are single engine, stay away from those.
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And most pilot err is attributable to roster fatigue, insufficient training, and/or improper pilot experience.
Remind anyone of an airline you know... "Watch this space."
Remind anyone of an airline you know... "Watch this space."
