Making friends and influencing Cabin Crew
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Making friends and influencing Cabin Crew
Talking to a couple of the cabin crew the other night and there's a story doing the rounds via the grapevine and a cabin crew facebook page that a 777 captain took exception to a couple of crew finishing off the leftovers of the business class meals etc. and promptly called the company to have some Cathay security meet the plane on arrival.
Apparently the F/O covertly informed the cabin crew involved and let them know that it might be a pretty good idea to remove any leftover catering from their bags before arrival.
Anyone else heard this one?
The cabin crew have got the ****s big time and whether the story is true or not the captain in question would be well advised to bring his own sandwiches and thermos for the next twenty years or so I reckon.
Those birds have got memories like elephants.
After hearing who the Captain was it made the story very plausible. Arrogant young man at the best of times.
Apparently the F/O covertly informed the cabin crew involved and let them know that it might be a pretty good idea to remove any leftover catering from their bags before arrival.
Anyone else heard this one?
The cabin crew have got the ****s big time and whether the story is true or not the captain in question would be well advised to bring his own sandwiches and thermos for the next twenty years or so I reckon.
Those birds have got memories like elephants.
After hearing who the Captain was it made the story very plausible. Arrogant young man at the best of times.
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So what you are saying Mike is the captain was playing the CCs game, try and stab your colleagues in the back as silently and sneekily as possible ?
Good on him
maybe he has been one of the many to fall foul of the oxy thieves down the back ( apologies to the handful of good ones )
Good on him
maybe he has been one of the many to fall foul of the oxy thieves down the back ( apologies to the handful of good ones )
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Not trying to say anything mate just chucking it out there for comment and to see if anyone else has heard it doing the rounds.
It is a rumor network after all.
It is a rumor network after all.
Uncalled-for, 'fooey, maybe you have had your own issues with them?
For some of the CX girls, yes the English is marginal and most are lacking in the personality department, but they still do a damned good job for what they are paid, what they have to work with and who they have to work for.
Have you experienced the 'service' from the hags at QANTAS or on North American airlines recently?
For some of the CX girls, yes the English is marginal and most are lacking in the personality department, but they still do a damned good job for what they are paid, what they have to work with and who they have to work for.
Have you experienced the 'service' from the hags at QANTAS or on North American airlines recently?
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I'm with Dart on this one. They have a hard enough time as it is without some Capt or FO causing them grief as well. And then we wonder why they don't like/trust us.
They're generally a good bunch of people and I'd take them over QF/BA etc any day!
They're generally a good bunch of people and I'd take them over QF/BA etc any day!
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You weren’t flying with me the other night were you? We were talking to the ISM and FP about this very story. I wouldn’t know this captain from a bar of soap because I’m on another fleet but his actions were nothing less than disgusting. I’m just glad that the F/O was able to give them a heads up.
Fooey. I personally find most of the cabin crew are actually quite OK if you actually give them the time of day. Granted some of the locals can lack in the personality stakes but most of them are OK.
You weren’t flying with me the other night were you? We were talking to the ISM and FP about this very story. I wouldn’t know this captain from a bar of soap because I’m on another fleet but his actions were nothing less than disgusting. I’m just glad that the F/O was able to give them a heads up.
Fooey. I personally find most of the cabin crew are actually quite OK if you actually give them the time of day. Granted some of the locals can lack in the personality stakes but most of them are OK.
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Arrogant young man at the best of times.
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I could'nt give a flying 
about their looks or personality, I was referring to the " good job " they do of letting pax roam around the a/c with the seatbelt sign on, reporting other staff for BS misdemeanours ( no not me, but an awful lot of people seem to have stories ), reporting their own CC ( are you going to try and tell me this is not the CX CC culture ? )stealing things from the aircraft etc.
Like I said, I apologise to the good ones, from what I have seen over the past few years they are in the minority.
about their looks or personality, I was referring to the " good job " they do of letting pax roam around the a/c with the seatbelt sign on, reporting other staff for BS misdemeanours ( no not me, but an awful lot of people seem to have stories ), reporting their own CC ( are you going to try and tell me this is not the CX CC culture ? )stealing things from the aircraft etc.Like I said, I apologise to the good ones, from what I have seen over the past few years they are in the minority.
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Arrogant??
Was some one calling me? Anyone need to be dressed down over something obscure?
I'm sad to say that it looks like I've been "out-wankered" this time. I usually go to work on a daily basis and try to make the day out as horrible and uncomfortable as possible, but attacking the girls and calling security on them is a whole new low!
I'm impressed! I'll recommend this man for a star chamber position!
PS: I'm an arrogant OLD man ... COS 08 COS no one else would have me!
Was some one calling me? Anyone need to be dressed down over something obscure?
I'm sad to say that it looks like I've been "out-wankered" this time. I usually go to work on a daily basis and try to make the day out as horrible and uncomfortable as possible, but attacking the girls and calling security on them is a whole new low!
I'm impressed! I'll recommend this man for a star chamber position!
PS: I'm an arrogant OLD man ... COS 08 COS no one else would have me!
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Gotta call BS on this one
Have to say I heard this rumor from some cabin crew the other day. Have to call BS on this one. Know the Captain in question and there is no way this happened.
Same thing with that ISM Frankfurt rumor. Or what about the Gold Coast BC roommates both pregnant by the same cockpit crew? Sorry hate to debunk that one too.
I know I know sucks not having anything "interesting" to gossip about.
How about that monster payrise, eh?
Same thing with that ISM Frankfurt rumor. Or what about the Gold Coast BC roommates both pregnant by the same cockpit crew? Sorry hate to debunk that one too.
I know I know sucks not having anything "interesting" to gossip about.
How about that monster payrise, eh?
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I have experienced first hand "how NOT to make friends with the CC" , cannot help to think that after that little childish move from our leader I now understand why some girls are not to keen to come to the flight desk unles it's duty related.
Fortunately this is the exception in my CX experience.
Personally I find under the circumstance and with the culture differences our CC is doing OK. ( No, not dating or married to one)
And as Sweep the Leg confirmed, and least 2 myths BUSTED
We have way to little excitement in our work environment, a great breading ground for some hot rumors.
As for the Captain wanting to report CC as rumored ..... unfortunately "Plausible" from 0.001% I have worked with.
Fortunately this is the exception in my CX experience.
Personally I find under the circumstance and with the culture differences our CC is doing OK. ( No, not dating or married to one)
And as Sweep the Leg confirmed, and least 2 myths BUSTED
We have way to little excitement in our work environment, a great breading ground for some hot rumors.
As for the Captain wanting to report CC as rumored ..... unfortunately "Plausible" from 0.001% I have worked with.
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Either way, this Capt's reputation is f#%ked with the girls now.
There's no stopping the gossip once it hits the rear galley. Truth or lies won't matter as it will be set in stone that he's guilty.
There's no stopping the gossip once it hits the rear galley. Truth or lies won't matter as it will be set in stone that he's guilty.
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IF the story is true, and thats a big if, even knowing this newish captain, then Tyson744, I would say the FO did a good thing by alerting the cabin crew.
We shouldn't be going out of our way to drop our work colleagues in the sh1te.
As for whether it's true, yes he is a young individual not lacking in confidence, has been known to carry on like you would prefer he didn't, however, like many of the other recent rumours, I believe it would be inconceivable he would knowingly commit culinary suicide for the next few years till cabin crew memory fades, even he is not that stupid.
Incidentally, whilst an ISM was plugging me for info the other night, she said even poor old Frank still takes his own sandwiches.
I hope this myth comes out in the wash as "Busted"
We shouldn't be going out of our way to drop our work colleagues in the sh1te.
As for whether it's true, yes he is a young individual not lacking in confidence, has been known to carry on like you would prefer he didn't, however, like many of the other recent rumours, I believe it would be inconceivable he would knowingly commit culinary suicide for the next few years till cabin crew memory fades, even he is not that stupid.
Incidentally, whilst an ISM was plugging me for info the other night, she said even poor old Frank still takes his own sandwiches.
I hope this myth comes out in the wash as "Busted"
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I now that the CN is question has been constantly calling up ISD and demanding that they quash the "rumor"...where there is smoke there is generally fire. Arrogant t wat, either way he should grow a pair.
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Good evening All.
Before we do another job of burying one of our own based on heresay and dubious facts (ever noticed that hardly any other airline groups on this forum appear to do this as much as us?)can we just confirm:
1)The cabin crew were just finishing off some food in the galley? ....or....
2)Packing their bags with all and sundry to cart off home or where else?
Well, even if we hear straight from one of the horses mouths we'll only get one side of the story anyway. So we can't confirm it. So all that follows is conjecture.
1 happens as standard ops...so... someones telling some serious porkies and throwing fire on a story damaging someones reputation on an anonymous forum.
But if it's case 2. Well that's called theft isn't it? Here or anywhere else.We take any more than a used SCMP off the jet or a peeled banana and get caught that's game over. The issue of salary, language, whether you think the skipper is a top guy or a dropkick etc is totally irrelevant. Everyones got an opinion.
I have no knowledge of the facts, good guy, bad guy, serious, short, tall relaxed, based in timbuctoo? I really don't care. A long time reader of this forum but this is my first post. I just cannot contemplate why people want to hang a colleagues name and reputation out to dry on an anonymous forum, instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Don't like the way he runs the ship. Fine. For those of you who aren't running it now and are passing judgement on him, you'll be running it before you know it, try keeping everyone happy all the time and you'll end up a basket case. Think everyones going to love you. Think again. How many different cultures are you dealing with on any given day? Fact is he's running it for the duty period. He's not getting paid to make friends. However making some is a desirable outcome if at all possible and most of us work hard at it.
Cabin crew don't like the way he runs the operation. Definetly a shame. We appreciate the work you do and looking after us most of the time and we realise your job , whilst different to ours is extremely difficult at times. "Whats that Mr Jones, you'd like to verbally abuse me and now you'd like me to get you a meal and a tasty beverage as quickly as possible, certainly sir".
But sometime a line has to be drawn and he gets paid to draw it.
He handled the situation in the way he saw fit. That's what he gets paid for. Whether he handled it well, badly, over the top, or turned a blind eye thats up to him. Pilots trying to keep everybody happy all the time is a recipe for bad things to happen.
A quiet suggestion whilst operating on limited and grey info. Standard ops as a left seater here. Did you go over the top fella, did you go bananas over case 1? none of us are perfect. Next time your joining the marching band leaving cx city tap one of the crew on the shoulder with a quick apology, "sorry I was having a bad day" reasonable apology, reasonably accepted., don't want to accept it fine. And of course no one involved has been sacked or disciplined over eating the leftovers.
Case 2. Caught thieving.Handled it as he saw fit. Are the cabin crew ops manuals vague on the consequences of a five finger discount? Probably not.We'd all do it differently or possibly the same. In the words of one of our gentleman flyers now happily retired when faced with (possibly, who really knows) the same scenario. A mad rush of bags being filled with everything from glasses to caviar right in front of them. "you do know I'm the Captain and he's the First Officer right ladies and gentleman? Please do us the courtesy of not doing that in front of us, good day to you"
Like most stories I only heard that second hand. But what a dignified way of handling a tricky problem. However, what if the station manager walks on board and see's the captain presiding over a pilfer fest and goes into an undignified rage .One of the crew looks up and says "the captains here and he didn't say we had to stop, so we thought it was ok". Guess who's going to the fleet office and who gets to go home to bed?
Anyway back to my cave. It's a rumour network. But that doesn't mean we have to hang our colleagues in a public forum. Sinner or saint. Isn't that what the bar is for?
By the way to the previous poster who suggested he "grow a pair". Ever faced down a group of hostile cabin crew? Thats a pair. Or you could just head over to the AOA forums. It's pistols at dawn and queensbury rules over there at the moment. But you have to tell your name.
Cheers all.
Before we do another job of burying one of our own based on heresay and dubious facts (ever noticed that hardly any other airline groups on this forum appear to do this as much as us?)can we just confirm:
1)The cabin crew were just finishing off some food in the galley? ....or....
2)Packing their bags with all and sundry to cart off home or where else?
Well, even if we hear straight from one of the horses mouths we'll only get one side of the story anyway. So we can't confirm it. So all that follows is conjecture.
1 happens as standard ops...so... someones telling some serious porkies and throwing fire on a story damaging someones reputation on an anonymous forum.
But if it's case 2. Well that's called theft isn't it? Here or anywhere else.We take any more than a used SCMP off the jet or a peeled banana and get caught that's game over. The issue of salary, language, whether you think the skipper is a top guy or a dropkick etc is totally irrelevant. Everyones got an opinion.
I have no knowledge of the facts, good guy, bad guy, serious, short, tall relaxed, based in timbuctoo? I really don't care. A long time reader of this forum but this is my first post. I just cannot contemplate why people want to hang a colleagues name and reputation out to dry on an anonymous forum, instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Don't like the way he runs the ship. Fine. For those of you who aren't running it now and are passing judgement on him, you'll be running it before you know it, try keeping everyone happy all the time and you'll end up a basket case. Think everyones going to love you. Think again. How many different cultures are you dealing with on any given day? Fact is he's running it for the duty period. He's not getting paid to make friends. However making some is a desirable outcome if at all possible and most of us work hard at it.
Cabin crew don't like the way he runs the operation. Definetly a shame. We appreciate the work you do and looking after us most of the time and we realise your job , whilst different to ours is extremely difficult at times. "Whats that Mr Jones, you'd like to verbally abuse me and now you'd like me to get you a meal and a tasty beverage as quickly as possible, certainly sir".
But sometime a line has to be drawn and he gets paid to draw it.
He handled the situation in the way he saw fit. That's what he gets paid for. Whether he handled it well, badly, over the top, or turned a blind eye thats up to him. Pilots trying to keep everybody happy all the time is a recipe for bad things to happen.
A quiet suggestion whilst operating on limited and grey info. Standard ops as a left seater here. Did you go over the top fella, did you go bananas over case 1? none of us are perfect. Next time your joining the marching band leaving cx city tap one of the crew on the shoulder with a quick apology, "sorry I was having a bad day" reasonable apology, reasonably accepted., don't want to accept it fine. And of course no one involved has been sacked or disciplined over eating the leftovers.
Case 2. Caught thieving.Handled it as he saw fit. Are the cabin crew ops manuals vague on the consequences of a five finger discount? Probably not.We'd all do it differently or possibly the same. In the words of one of our gentleman flyers now happily retired when faced with (possibly, who really knows) the same scenario. A mad rush of bags being filled with everything from glasses to caviar right in front of them. "you do know I'm the Captain and he's the First Officer right ladies and gentleman? Please do us the courtesy of not doing that in front of us, good day to you"
Like most stories I only heard that second hand. But what a dignified way of handling a tricky problem. However, what if the station manager walks on board and see's the captain presiding over a pilfer fest and goes into an undignified rage .One of the crew looks up and says "the captains here and he didn't say we had to stop, so we thought it was ok". Guess who's going to the fleet office and who gets to go home to bed?
Anyway back to my cave. It's a rumour network. But that doesn't mean we have to hang our colleagues in a public forum. Sinner or saint. Isn't that what the bar is for?
By the way to the previous poster who suggested he "grow a pair". Ever faced down a group of hostile cabin crew? Thats a pair. Or you could just head over to the AOA forums. It's pistols at dawn and queensbury rules over there at the moment. But you have to tell your name.
Cheers all.