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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 15:03
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Although I completely agree that you shouldn't hang a colleague based on rumours, I disagree in the way that you defend the act of dobbing someone based on something so petty, regardless whether this rumour is true or not.

We've all, at some point or another, had the haagen Dazs ice cream, or dare I say it, the leftover wine in the bus after a tiring sector, so in a sense we are all just as guilty. If you can't draw the distinction between a serious offence and one that doesn't even deserve a mention, well then you are either retarded or vindictive.

Nobody respects or trusts a snitch, irrespective of which side he/she is on.
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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 16:41
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we have a directive, NO food to be removed from a/c anyone caught doing so WILL be sacked as it is deemed as theft.
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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 19:00
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no taking food or wine off the plane. we just tip the win down the drain... what a waste.

i wonder how much waste cx produces by this method? Answer: not a lot as we are constantly running out of food onboard all the time. the management have been skimping and cutting back now for years.

as regards to the issue at hand - i'll go with flap10 on this one
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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 19:02
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That's the last time I offer you a sandwich when you come to sign off the book!
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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 20:28
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Sorry ladies and gents. Just can't believe one of our guys would go all out and call security over a few leftovers. Just doesn't add up. Very unfortunate day for relations if that's true. If there's actually anything to this rumour there has to be more to it than that.Only thing I see that's that black and white is the pages of FCOM 3.Retarded & Vindictive. No. Imperfect & ready to hear both full sides of the story before ready aim fire.. Yes.

On a general note.

"Flap 10" said "Nobody respects or trusts a snitch, irrespective of which side he/she is on" . (apologies if I got the quote wrong) For some things I'm right with you. For others I have to differ.

To the guy who snitches on someone for taking 2 dollars out of the tip jar to call a cab and get his mates home safely after a big night out so they don't have to drive. No respect.

But....A guys mate mugs an old lady out of the blue for her handbag. Its got her pension money and heart medication in it. The guy asks him to return it. Tell's him he'll help him out with the money he needs, do anything reasonable to help him give it back to her and not get stung. He just won't give it back to her, all options exhausted, the old lady is still without the meds and rent money...You hate to do it but you snitch. Respect.
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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 21:35
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ah but Night Watch as long as I don't remove it I'm ok
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Old 3rd Feb 2011, 05:07
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It is my understanding that anything perishable left over after a flight may be removed from the plane. Have I been misinformed?
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Old 3rd Feb 2011, 06:07
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As far as I know, we are allowed to remove 'unconsumed' crew catering and 1 used newspaper from the aircraft per person. I would assume that if the food is consumed already, that you are also allowed to remove it off the aircraft!!

Do the cabin crew get crew meals on shorthaul sectors? If not, what counts as crew food for them? Everything the passengers leave over I guess?
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Old 3rd Feb 2011, 08:24
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spannersatcx,

Just remember the laxatives. Turnarounds can be short.
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Old 3rd Feb 2011, 08:45
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Just to throw in something here about removal of left overs, particularly food, from aircraft. When I worked for an international airline in SA, we used to remove the unused food and take it to underprivileged children in a home near the airport (except the caviar from First which used to disappear!). I was stopped by customs one day and told that this was highly illegal and I would be fined heavily if I continued to do it.

The miserable old so-and-so from customs was the same one who used to ask me for copies of 'Manchete' off the 'plane, a Brasilian magazine which in those days used to show the bits of ladies's bodies which in SA were covered by black strips.

No food, no Manchete.
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Old 3rd Feb 2011, 09:18
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In most countries port health and quarantine go nuts if you remove food from the aircraft (Customs and Excise get cross about alcohol coming off aircraft). At a UK airline I worked for, it was policy that it was OK to eat leftovers on the aircraft, but anyone caught decatering off the aircraft would be dealt with severely. The CC used fry up the Upper Class steaks for the ground engineers, and leave lovely steak (breakfast) baguettes at the forward galley for the engineers meeting the early arrivals. It was a nice start to the morning, particularly if you had been dragged out to look at a major inbound defect.

It is not just a matter of 'stealing' from the company, it can get the airline in deep sh1t if employees are found breaking quarantine and customs laws.

Ratting out your colleagues is another story - if the Capt wants to make a point it should be done 'internally' rather than grassing out to external parties. Not good to air your dirty laundry.

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Old 4th Feb 2011, 01:41
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It was a local guy. It was also confirmed by another local guy. Some people just need to grow a sack and handle things the right way.

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Old 4th Feb 2011, 02:13
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Local/Kiwi was my mail from Cabin Crew.
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Old 4th Feb 2011, 05:07
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Nobody respects or trusts a snitch, irrespective of which side he/she is on.
Does that also include the FO who, in the situation described above, snitched on the Captain to the CC?
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Old 4th Feb 2011, 05:58
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Yes etrang nobody seems too worried about the F/O's behaviour in all this. Poor all around.
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Old 4th Feb 2011, 10:06
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Big Picture....... Food Wastage....... Pilots using duvets....... Nit picky bull****.......... Saving a dollar to make a dime......... 2 BILLION USD PROFIT AT LEAST!!!!!!!................ = no need for cost cutting.............
 
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Does that also include the FO who, in the situation described above, snitched on the Captain to the CC?
Actually a snitch is in reference to someone that notifies or informs a higher authority of illegal activities. What the FO did, and rightfully so, was to WARN the cabin crew involved. Unless you consider people emailing RT/PC vol 8s to be snitches too, well then I can see how you might see the FO as a snitch.
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Old 5th Feb 2011, 02:57
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Flap 10,

Well said!!

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Old 5th Feb 2011, 03:10
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Actually a snitch is in reference to someone that notifies or informs a higher authority of illegal activities.
It also applies to getting someone in trouble with their colleagues or friends. If various posters on this thread are correct then the FO's actions put the Captain at serious risk of food poisoning and worse.
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Old 5th Feb 2011, 03:37
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The F/O could have told the ISM, "just to let you know I have heard the company are starting to do spot checks after landing".
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