75%
...and don't forget the percentage who are not AOA members, riding on the back of the negotiating team's effort and leeching off the members 
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Yep it is in now. In a way I am glad it wasn't really tight. That would have caused such a division among the membership. I just hope the 25% who voted No don't get upset and leave the AOA. Whatever your thoughts, and percentage increase, what we need is for everyone to stick together. We have other battles ahead and a strong union is the only way we can achieve anything. Perhaps now those who are not members can afford to join. 
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Sorvad, your quote...
boxjockey and cxchild labour...you obviously have nothing better to do with your lives than trawling through everyone else's realtime rosters then spouting your vitriol for hours every day on...
Got a little too much time on your hands???Trawling througt peoples past posts yourself. Pot meet kettle.
I suggest you look up ARROGANT in the dictionary and re read my post....I am suggesting we do exactly what Kiwi wants"sticking together" NOT WORKING G DAYS.........unlike some self centered twats....
boxjockey and cxchild labour...you obviously have nothing better to do with your lives than trawling through everyone else's realtime rosters then spouting your vitriol for hours every day on...
I suggest you look up ARROGANT in the dictionary and re read my post....I am suggesting we do exactly what Kiwi wants"sticking together" NOT WORKING G DAYS.........unlike some self centered twats....
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I agree with your sentiment completely. However, I have to come to sorvad's defence somewhat in that your post to flyingkiwi implied that you knew him and that he'd been guilty of working G days at some point. Whether that's the case or not is immaterial but the implication was evidenced by the emphasis of "NOT" and the 6 exclamation marks.
Sadly, this sort of misunderstanding typifies much of what goes on and it's hardly surprising in some respects that people like 411A see us as a tug-o-war team competing against ourselves rather than pulling together against the other team.
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I agree with your sentiment completely. However, I have to come to sorvad's defence somewhat in that your post to flyingkiwi implied that you knew him and that he'd been guilty of working G days at some point. Whether that's the case or not is immaterial but the implication was evidenced by the emphasis of "NOT" and the 6 exclamation marks.
Sadly, this sort of misunderstanding typifies much of what goes on and it's hardly surprising in some respects that people like 411A see us as a tug-o-war team competing against ourselves rather than pulling together against the other team.
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lets move on and fight another battle
AOA are a bunch of weak t..ts- this was an opportunity to say "no" and to start getting back what we are entitled to- proper pay rise, better conditions (roster, hotels, etc etc etc) the list is endless. You have sold out for a short term payrise for some- shouldn't everyone get a pay increase? It's a divide and conquer all over again. We had them over a barrel, an opportunity but now it's gone!
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Sorry, I'm a bit confused here. Without wishing to go into the details on a public forum, my understanding is that everyone gets a degree of increase through means other than basic salary - even the demographic that your post implies are freeloading non-members, who:
You then go on to say:
which would indicate that you feel that the negotiating position that came about as a result of the GC's hard work didn't reflect the membership's aspirations.
So on one hand you seem to be praising the GC and on the other, criticising - or am I missing something?
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Sorry, I'm a bit confused here. Without wishing to go into the details on a public forum, my understanding is that everyone gets a degree of increase through means other than basic salary - even the demographic that your post implies are freeloading non-members, who:
rode the backs of the GC's hard work and still get NOTHING...!!!!!
our wish list didn't matter a bit when they went in for the pay rise
So on one hand you seem to be praising the GC and on the other, criticising - or am I missing something?
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Well i'm disappointed that this motion was passed, but so be it. I voted my choice AOA members.
Hard to expect that the company isn't delighted we took a minimal rise, and now again its affirmed that pilots will take small deals and can be largely walked over.
RP fight - Stick together and all that future battles stuff ... I AGREE....
However i have no decent expectations of any good outcome.
Hard to expect that the company isn't delighted we took a minimal rise, and now again its affirmed that pilots will take small deals and can be largely walked over.
RP fight - Stick together and all that future battles stuff ... I AGREE....
However i have no decent expectations of any good outcome.
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Flaps 10,
Actually I AM a member but thanks for your condescending reply. Sorry I had the temerity to ask a question here instead of on the AOA forum.
You must be a cool guy to fly with!
Actually I AM a member but thanks for your condescending reply. Sorry I had the temerity to ask a question here instead of on the AOA forum.
You must be a cool guy to fly with!