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If the FAU are looking for 'public sympathy' should they go on a work-to-rule or a strike of some sort. Then I'm afraid that Becky Kwans 'vague' video doesn't give a lot of clues. All I got from the video was:
- Please come to our meeting Mr Manager (we need to feel important/special)
- We don't want to sort out your roster swapping cock-up, cos' it was really good for us ($$$$$$$)
- Uh, that's it - I couldn't get any more...
Maybe they are unhappy about a lot of other things, but they aren't exactly hammering those 'other' highly significant and important points home in their 'publicity'. Maybe it was more clear in the Cantonese version. Of course I forgot the Milan route issue....
Open up the gates of hell - incoming!
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N1 Vibes
- Please come to our meeting Mr Manager (we need to feel important/special)
- We don't want to sort out your roster swapping cock-up, cos' it was really good for us ($$$$$$$)
- Uh, that's it - I couldn't get any more...
Maybe they are unhappy about a lot of other things, but they aren't exactly hammering those 'other' highly significant and important points home in their 'publicity'. Maybe it was more clear in the Cantonese version. Of course I forgot the Milan route issue....
Open up the gates of hell - incoming!
Regards,
N1 Vibes
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I fully support the cabin crew in their fight. We have all lost financially in the past few years, cabin crew are no different. The company has imposed various wage cuts, wether it be through lack of 13th month or productivity increases, that were not fair and have led to the employees getting less money.
So regardless of wether it is fair or not, I fully support them for standing up and fighting for it. They clearly have more spine and foresight than our ranks, and for that, we should be proud of them. Can't believe we have some idiots here who would side with the company.
So regardless of wether it is fair or not, I fully support them for standing up and fighting for it. They clearly have more spine and foresight than our ranks, and for that, we should be proud of them. Can't believe we have some idiots here who would side with the company.
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Do not deny they have spine (sp#nk)
Do not think it's unfair (only stupid the company couldn't see it)
Do not side with the company
....only want to know what specifically it is they are going to war about. Because so far the points they have made don't include:
Even the elusive "it" to which you refer. What is "it" that they really aren't happy with that will win the hearts of pax, when they are stuck waiting for cabin crew ro do their 30 min cabin check, or stuck cos there are no cabin crew....
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Do not think it's unfair (only stupid the company couldn't see it)
Do not side with the company
....only want to know what specifically it is they are going to war about. Because so far the points they have made don't include:
imposed various wage cuts, wether it be through lack of 13th month or productivity increases, that were not fair and have led to the employees getting less money
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Hey Liam, just some law things you should read about. I did NOT mention anyone by name firstly. Secondly, the word "criminals" can be used in a number of contexts be it moral, financial or legal.
Having a name like Liam, plagerised from Oasis, would mean you are British, so I assume you knew all this already.
Rock on hard FAU!
Having a name like Liam, plagerised from Oasis, would mean you are British, so I assume you knew all this already.
Rock on hard FAU!
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Straw that broke the camel's back
I think the cabin crew have many more issues with CX management than retaining the current swapping policy. They are angry about so many other issues, and have been short-changed by CX for so many years, that this change to swapping policy is finally the straw that breaks the camel's back. I doubt that the FAU would wage war with the company over the swapping policy that affects only a small percentage of its members. There must be more behind their strong, united front against CX management.
Don't get me wrong, I think it is ridiculous that you can abuse the system to work 20hrs and getting pay 70hrs. And on top of that, the company would have to pay another crew member 50hrs twice plus overtime. However, I also think CX management will not miss the first opportunity to advantage of the employees (pilots, cabin crew, ground staff). As such, I support the FAU in their stance against the management.
Don't get me wrong, I think it is ridiculous that you can abuse the system to work 20hrs and getting pay 70hrs. And on top of that, the company would have to pay another crew member 50hrs twice plus overtime. However, I also think CX management will not miss the first opportunity to advantage of the employees (pilots, cabin crew, ground staff). As such, I support the FAU in their stance against the management.
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TVB News interview with FAU Rep Dora Lai:
Seems they are ready to roll-over and have their bellies tickled like any lap dog. As long as a manager appears at their EGM(Ego Gently Massaged), they seem to be happy with the agreement that is on the table.....
Still no mention of any long-term gripes etc. I think that actually I have OVER-estimated the power of the FAU. Todays meeting stands to prove me wrong.
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Seems they are ready to roll-over and have their bellies tickled like any lap dog. As long as a manager appears at their EGM(Ego Gently Massaged), they seem to be happy with the agreement that is on the table.....
Still no mention of any long-term gripes etc. I think that actually I have OVER-estimated the power of the FAU. Todays meeting stands to prove me wrong.
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Guys, who is the chairman of FAU ?
Is there any term - "overtime" in their contract ?
As you guys think everyone should respect what he/she has signed, I think they are just fighting for their right. No need to win the public (or your) support. Who are you btw ?
Is there any term - "overtime" in their contract ?
As you guys think everyone should respect what he/she has signed, I think they are just fighting for their right. No need to win the public (or your) support. Who are you btw ?
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The contract/terms that the cabin crew signed up to originally was a fcuk up by CX. Since CX didn't specify clearly in the contract/terms that no CC could swap below their minimum hours, it just 'stated' what their minimum hours were.
And the agreement that potentially they are about to sign, is just bringing the cc back on a path that leads to no swapping below 76 hrs a month I'm guessing.
All of the above swooning and fawning over the fact that the cc might also be fighting for bigger things, is not really stacking up with this 'great leap backwards'.
Who am I - someone with a pair of eyes...
Incoming!
And the agreement that potentially they are about to sign, is just bringing the cc back on a path that leads to no swapping below 76 hrs a month I'm guessing.
All of the above swooning and fawning over the fact that the cc might also be fighting for bigger things, is not really stacking up with this 'great leap backwards'.
Who am I - someone with a pair of eyes...
Incoming!
