Dragging Your Arse In HKG
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One of our fine A340s is currently AOG in LHR after a suspected tail strike ex HKG.
Could be out the pack for a while (B-HXC those who are interested)
One of our fine A340s is currently AOG in LHR after a suspected tail strike ex HKG.
Could be out the pack for a while (B-HXC those who are interested)
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I find it odd....
When HKA make a cock up, it is nothing but slagging off from all and sundry on here, when CX do something....
Nothing, not a thing is mentioned....
All the members on here must work for CX
Anyway enough said
When HKA make a cock up, it is nothing but slagging off from all and sundry on here, when CX do something....
Nothing, not a thing is mentioned....
All the members on here must work for CX
Anyway enough said
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When I was in the air force flying the slippery 120kt Caribou widow maker, we were taught the correct way to rotate an aircraft.
The problem with CX is the briefs are not up to scratch, this whole CTWO thing doesn't cover enough ground. If the guys had briefed how they would rotate the aircraft for the conditions presented then the outcome would have been different.
I've never flown an airbus but let me tell you a few things. Do not try and snatch and grab a heavy 340. Once VR green dot purple speed is displayed on the screen gently ease back on the Nintendo stick and allow the wing to generate some lift and fly a little. Look outside and maintain the horizon in your peripheral even under IMC, when the mountains get smaller then you can ease back some more and reach for the sky.
Groupwise me CRWTOSS or under crew contacts feel free to call me.
The problem with CX is the briefs are not up to scratch, this whole CTWO thing doesn't cover enough ground. If the guys had briefed how they would rotate the aircraft for the conditions presented then the outcome would have been different.
I've never flown an airbus but let me tell you a few things. Do not try and snatch and grab a heavy 340. Once VR green dot purple speed is displayed on the screen gently ease back on the Nintendo stick and allow the wing to generate some lift and fly a little. Look outside and maintain the horizon in your peripheral even under IMC, when the mountains get smaller then you can ease back some more and reach for the sky.
Groupwise me CRWTOSS or under crew contacts feel free to call me.
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The only reason I can think of, other than pure inquisitiveness, for people to know who it was, is so that if a convenient quite moment arises with one of these gentlemen, that the subject could be discussed with a view to finding out what happened, why it happened, and how the rest of us can learn from it and avoid such an incident in the future.
It's easy enough to find out who they are, (but please dont plaster their names here), by going into the IBM host, option 1 for a/c movements, 2.1 for the specific aircraft reg, that will give you the date and flt number, then go to crew direct, and there they are.
There for the grace of god.....
May I humbly suggest that a little discretion is used, or alternatively, wait for the report on the board.
It's easy enough to find out who they are, (but please dont plaster their names here), by going into the IBM host, option 1 for a/c movements, 2.1 for the specific aircraft reg, that will give you the date and flt number, then go to crew direct, and there they are.
There for the grace of god.....
May I humbly suggest that a little discretion is used, or alternatively, wait for the report on the board.
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Understand from those in the know, that 180 deg wind direction changes at the time did not help. You may find, if you dig just a little deeper than the the top crust of the brown stuff, that one of the CX Tractor division twins also dragged it's a$$ on T/O affected by same wind conditions, only 20 mins after the 'Cochon Plastique'......and that doesn't have a nintendo joystick.
Brgd's
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AFT Heavy
I beleive members of 'the management' were on that flight and seated aft due to all the crewing and paxing pilots sitting up front ! It may have been the managements loaded wallets that caused the stike ??
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This is a rumour network- but I heard the crew didnt know about the scrape until arriving in London when one of the FAs mentioned that they had heard a bang on rotation out of HKG all those hours earlier.
If thats true its great to see CRM working well.
If thats true its great to see CRM working well.
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I expect on a LHR flight there would have been someone down the back as a pax who would have heard the bang also and not wait 13 hours to mention it as would be pretty obvious what it probably was. If there was a bang that is unbelievable that it was not mentioned until LHR.
Sloppy... you obviously haven't done one of our cockpit/cabin crew mixed CRM days lately, in my humble opinion CX's greatest flight safety issue is cabin/cockpit comm's, some of the stories from these CRM days are, frankly, f**k'n frightening. 
I feel safer with the DG's on the freighter!
That, and I get to make my own coffee!
I feel safer with the DG's on the freighter!
That, and I get to make my own coffee!
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linguistics specialist?
Have been reading but not contributing for a while but this one has to be commented on.
Dear Captain Toss, in another of his erudite and amusing posts, wrote in another thread:
Then in this thread, ignoring the "the be", he writes the word, "periffial"; presumably a play on the word "peripheral". Or perhaps a deliberate spelling mistake ? Heavens forbid that he can't spell the word "peripheral".
Either way, the RAAF's expert would not have become either an intelligence or linguistics specialist in the Real Air Force.
Do keep the amusing posts coming though.
Dear Captain Toss, in another of his erudite and amusing posts, wrote in another thread:
Did you know I was selected out of 2000 people the be the RAAF's intelligence linguistics specialist? .... Let me tell you.
Either way, the RAAF's expert would not have become either an intelligence or linguistics specialist in the Real Air Force.
Do keep the amusing posts coming though.
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Good Catch "AnAmusedReader"
It's obvious that you have the IQ and skills that this airline needs. I like to throw a curve ball in there once in a while, just to see how long it takes until some one picks it up.
I like to set up the command trainee's all the time with deliberate mistakes especially if they're G.A. guys, it's a pleasure to watch
I would say that you're an Air Force chap as well? RAF? It shows.
Most of these Cessna flying hillbillies couldn't spell "peripheral" if their life depended on it, some of them can't even spell VNAV!
Good catch I'll recommend you for training & you too Mr. Vibes.
It's obvious that you have the IQ and skills that this airline needs. I like to throw a curve ball in there once in a while, just to see how long it takes until some one picks it up.
I like to set up the command trainee's all the time with deliberate mistakes especially if they're G.A. guys, it's a pleasure to watch
I would say that you're an Air Force chap as well? RAF? It shows.
Most of these Cessna flying hillbillies couldn't spell "peripheral" if their life depended on it, some of them can't even spell VNAV!
Good catch I'll recommend you for training & you too Mr. Vibes.
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CTP,
you really must get that sticky apostrophe button fixed:
It's letting you down man!
With greatest and humblest of forelock tugging,
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you really must get that sticky apostrophe button fixed:
some of them cant even spell
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Strange Editing
This is odd. After two errors were pointed out to the Tosser, they are mysteriously corrected, eg 'periffial' in Post #5, yet there is no usual note 'edited by Captain Toss Parker on ....'
How can this be?
Is the Tosser a Mod?
How can this be?
Is the Tosser a Mod?
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Well spotted Neptunes Rex, 5's in your next ERAS ....
I did edit these mistakes so as not to irritate anymore eagle eyed readers.
If I am to ooze charisma, perfection & excellence in a command like fashion then I had better play by the rules.
Must dash now and get back to my pose, I'm having a portrait painted of me in my uniform to hang in the living room.
Regards,
TOSS
PS: Log on to freerice dot com and brush up on your english I obviously need to
I did edit these mistakes so as not to irritate anymore eagle eyed readers.
If I am to ooze charisma, perfection & excellence in a command like fashion then I had better play by the rules.
Must dash now and get back to my pose, I'm having a portrait painted of me in my uniform to hang in the living room.
Regards,
TOSS
PS: Log on to freerice dot com and brush up on your english I obviously need to
Capt Toss
From poolside at the USRC, what is your advice on joystick management when the mountains don't get smaller?
This seems a common phenomenon on the heavy bus with hairdryers and dicky winds. Not something you would ever have experienced with the mighty Caribou or even others in 33 SQDN on the mighty 70; but nonetheless a common question on the plastic fleet.
Please advise appropriate briefing and required periffial vision?
From poolside at the USRC, what is your advice on joystick management when the mountains don't get smaller?
This seems a common phenomenon on the heavy bus with hairdryers and dicky winds. Not something you would ever have experienced with the mighty Caribou or even others in 33 SQDN on the mighty 70; but nonetheless a common question on the plastic fleet.
Please advise appropriate briefing and required periffial vision?