HKAOA
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 84
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From: Hong Kong
Don't know !!!!
T Ali, you don't know !!!!.
It is not all about the money. The subs are actually fairly low.
It is about the complete stupidity of the AOA under Nigel and his friends. The membership was steered into a stupid go-slow which lost some good blokes their jobs and the AOA a lot of its membership.
Some of the dumb arse ideas of the past:
'Join the AOA to show the company we are strong' - wrong. It just shows the company that most are easily lead.
'Vote for industrial action to show the company we mean it, trust the AOA leadership to tell us what to do when the time is right' - wrong. Vote for industrial action when you know what it is to be AND when you are prepared to actually FOLLOW THROUGH with it. Too many voted for 'industrial action', but when it was revealed to be a go slow, too many did not follow it. Within a couple of days the company knew the real level of support the AOA had.
Guys left the AOA or did not join for VALID reasons. We need to address those reasons and get guys back in. We will never be completely united in what we want, but we need to be united in saying no to more pineapples.
So Ali, it is not about the money.
It is not all about the money. The subs are actually fairly low.
It is about the complete stupidity of the AOA under Nigel and his friends. The membership was steered into a stupid go-slow which lost some good blokes their jobs and the AOA a lot of its membership.
Some of the dumb arse ideas of the past:
'Join the AOA to show the company we are strong' - wrong. It just shows the company that most are easily lead.
'Vote for industrial action to show the company we mean it, trust the AOA leadership to tell us what to do when the time is right' - wrong. Vote for industrial action when you know what it is to be AND when you are prepared to actually FOLLOW THROUGH with it. Too many voted for 'industrial action', but when it was revealed to be a go slow, too many did not follow it. Within a couple of days the company knew the real level of support the AOA had.
Guys left the AOA or did not join for VALID reasons. We need to address those reasons and get guys back in. We will never be completely united in what we want, but we need to be united in saying no to more pineapples.
So Ali, it is not about the money.
Joined: Dec 1998
Posts: 223
Likes: 66
CX line driver. It is you who is 'full of sh#t. No organisation is faultless. That includes the AOA. The main point remains though. If you are not a member, you are not contibuting to the ONLY organisation that has ANY chance to affect matters concerning OUR careers. Conversly, you are happy to take any incremental gain that the AOA does manage to negotiate. Go ahead and cry your crocodile tears and 'blame' the AOA, meanwhile, continue to NOT contribute anything towards a possible better outcome. Tornado was right, you are also a self serving sponger. 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
From: Hong Kong
Mole, it is you who is Full of !!!!
I pay my subs. Always have.
As I have raised with various committee members over the years, the AOA needs to change its fundamental style to that of a professional body, rather than an old style union.
The first step is to get rid of JF.
As I have raised with various committee members over the years, the AOA needs to change its fundamental style to that of a professional body, rather than an old style union.
The first step is to get rid of JF.
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 397
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From: hong kong
Can someone correct me if i'm wrong but don't they have a lawyer working on a lot of these labour issues we are having all of these court battles with at the moment , wasn' t someone hired on a part time basis to help out in a more professional way ( rather than committee members with individual agendas ) ?
I remember PV telling me himself we were on the way , but haven't heard a thing about her since ?
I remember PV telling me himself we were on the way , but haven't heard a thing about her since ?
Last edited by goathead; 10th February 2010 at 22:24.
