Really, how good was the 49er victory??
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Really, how good was the 49er victory??
VICTORY?
It took eight years during which the company continued their operation unfettered.
The monetary award was woefully short of earnings lost were the plaintiffs to have continued on in their (established) careers.
Approx 10% of each persons LIFE EXPECTANCY has been wrapped up in a court case that did not deliver what it should have. Victory???
This determination will not deter other companies, nor Cathay, from again treating their employees with the utmost disdain so as to have their own callous selfish way.
Were CX to have "given in" or negotiated with their staff back in 2001 the monetary cost over the ensuing years would have been way in excess of $60M plus costs.
The path of least cost (from CX point of view) is to continue as normal, and if the staff take the company to court, they don't care, it costs them stuff-all!
Bad Publicity?? There'll be another story tomorrow and WHO WILL remember or even care??
A VICTORY??? REALLY??
If you don't like this determination and think that the 49ers were ripped off and you think that Cx management are a bunch of c%*#ts and deserve a fate worse than death, and really wonder what this company is going to be like in a few months/years....then get off your arse and leave and shut the f*&k up and stop your whingeing.
CX will not change, can YOU change them????
It took eight years during which the company continued their operation unfettered.
The monetary award was woefully short of earnings lost were the plaintiffs to have continued on in their (established) careers.
Approx 10% of each persons LIFE EXPECTANCY has been wrapped up in a court case that did not deliver what it should have. Victory???
This determination will not deter other companies, nor Cathay, from again treating their employees with the utmost disdain so as to have their own callous selfish way.
Were CX to have "given in" or negotiated with their staff back in 2001 the monetary cost over the ensuing years would have been way in excess of $60M plus costs.
The path of least cost (from CX point of view) is to continue as normal, and if the staff take the company to court, they don't care, it costs them stuff-all!
Bad Publicity?? There'll be another story tomorrow and WHO WILL remember or even care??
A VICTORY??? REALLY??
If you don't like this determination and think that the 49ers were ripped off and you think that Cx management are a bunch of c%*#ts and deserve a fate worse than death, and really wonder what this company is going to be like in a few months/years....then get off your arse and leave and shut the f*&k up and stop your whingeing.
CX will not change, can YOU change them????
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Precedent
Monster:
The case has set a precedent in Hong Kong labour law. It therefore benefits all Hong Kong workers.
The co. may well find itself charged with a CRIME for acting in contravention of Hong Kong labour ordinances. Something which if done again would receive increased penalties.
Never underestimate the power of negative PR, on the mind set and direction of future Labour issues.
Having said all that, the 49ers paid too high a price, and yes this judgment does not come anywhere close to compensation.
Yes we can change. It is a very slow process and will take years. Are you patient enough ? Willing to get involved and help out ?
Cheers
FG
The case has set a precedent in Hong Kong labour law. It therefore benefits all Hong Kong workers.
The co. may well find itself charged with a CRIME for acting in contravention of Hong Kong labour ordinances. Something which if done again would receive increased penalties.
Never underestimate the power of negative PR, on the mind set and direction of future Labour issues.
Having said all that, the 49ers paid too high a price, and yes this judgment does not come anywhere close to compensation.
Yes we can change. It is a very slow process and will take years. Are you patient enough ? Willing to get involved and help out ?
Cheers
FG
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This a victory for anyone who feels CX should re evaluate the ethics of their operation.
If you claim to want to be the best and set an example for everyone else and care about your staff like CX like to claim then you actions should demonstrate this.
Maybe CX will now have a little think about the direction of their moral compass.
For that reason alone this is very very significant.
If you claim to want to be the best and set an example for everyone else and care about your staff like CX like to claim then you actions should demonstrate this.
Maybe CX will now have a little think about the direction of their moral compass.
For that reason alone this is very very significant.
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I love how NR says he hopes they can now draw a line under the whole affair, yet in the same breath says the CX legal team is looking at the ruling to see where to go from here... Well that's not drawing a line under it, then, is it Nick?
Shame that PC, NR and TT can't just for once in their sorry lives be the big man and do the right thing and admit that they were wrong, they are sorry for the past and are paying for it and put it behind them. That would have perhaps garnered them SOME respect from the workforce.
This just shows that they don't have a decent bone in them and will continue to be the despicable management they are. No one grudges management trying to get the best out of a company for the benefit of company and shareholders alike, but when they do it by treating the very staff who make up the company with utter contempt then it just shows the type of people they are.
Hard to believe that Cathay was founded by real men, was once a proud airline and had the loyalty and respect of it's employees. Managements' families must be really proud of their husbands and dads...
Shame that PC, NR and TT can't just for once in their sorry lives be the big man and do the right thing and admit that they were wrong, they are sorry for the past and are paying for it and put it behind them. That would have perhaps garnered them SOME respect from the workforce.
This just shows that they don't have a decent bone in them and will continue to be the despicable management they are. No one grudges management trying to get the best out of a company for the benefit of company and shareholders alike, but when they do it by treating the very staff who make up the company with utter contempt then it just shows the type of people they are.
Hard to believe that Cathay was founded by real men, was once a proud airline and had the loyalty and respect of it's employees. Managements' families must be really proud of their husbands and dads...
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I would think that the only reasonable move now would be to immediately announce an end to any appeal process, and then an offer of re-employment with their seniority restored, plus a suitable payment for lost earnings. Other than that, any talk of 'drawing a line under the matter' are hollow words. The perplexing thing is that I genuinely believe that NR wishes to move ahead. I think he has enough personal honour to find his way to offering a proper apology. Time to man-up Nick. It would be the gracious and correct thing to do.
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Wraith and Yokebearer, couldn't have said it better myself!
If NR wants to move on(as he has been wanting to over the last few years apparently), it's his turn to do something tangible to prove it. We have waited and waited for some REAL good faith from CX. Very little has been forthcoming.
If NR wants to move on(as he has been wanting to over the last few years apparently), it's his turn to do something tangible to prove it. We have waited and waited for some REAL good faith from CX. Very little has been forthcoming.
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Swire is providing the legal advice..... at a cost to CX. All the names mentioned are swire employees, and the more time lawyers spend reviewing the cases, the more money swire transfers to themselves through the auspicies of CX being a separate entity. They people involved are ruthless, because they are part of a ruthless organization that helps to control China's resources as they see fit.
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I hear that some of them are planning to sue CX for their jobs back. Considering that the courts found they were dismissed illegally, it is hard to see how they wouldn't be obligated to reinstate them. What an eight year debacle.
