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Old 22nd April 2009 | 01:25
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Mister Poll: SLS/Cos08

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Mister Poll: SLS/Cos08
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 02:45
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Pass the word around about the poll...

90 mins old - 58 responses. might even do better than the last AOA vote, unfortunately
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 02:49
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Thanks for setting up the on-line vote Bograt
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 03:13
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I can't believe the discrepancy between how many are gona take SLS and how many think it is needed.

That means that the majority who want to take SLS are doing it purely because they are SCARED

What a pathetic bunch.
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 03:18
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Maybe some of us just want some extra leave whilst only losing basic salary and keeping everything else. It's not a bad deal if your personal circumstances can afford it at the moment.
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 03:25
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The funny thing is that you think that the leave will be awarded all at once. The company has already put down in writing that they will make every effort to assign the leave in not less than 1 week blocks.

Just like the company will make every effort to:

- Not schedule overnights between 18 and 30 hours.
- Not assign reserve duties when there is a change of duty.
- Not schedule freighter PX.
- Work stack rosters with leave allocated.

I expect no less from Cathay, but the pilot group should know better. You know the saying - Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 03:47
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completely agree with Sqwak7700!

Maybe some of us just want some extra leave whilst only losing basic salary and keeping everything else. It's not a bad deal if your personal circumstances can afford it at the moment.
Striker58, you are doing irreversible damage by taking SLS. The company will be justified in saying that our salaries are too high if everyone just says " only losing basic salary"
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 03:53
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Maybe some who voted that way have already taken their allotment.
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 04:52
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Online vote

So far.........75% of us don't believe SLS is required, but only 30% are prepared to vote no.

Remember guys........according to the AoA, the company has gone on record stating that there will be no victimisation against those who choose not to take SLS.

This is a voluntary pay cut.........do Cathay deserve (or need) your help? You abide by your contractual obligations........do they?

How have they rewarded you over your career?

Don't be intimidated. Don't lower the bar of our profession.

lmh
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 06:14
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Great Poll! How do we get this stickered to the top of the forum list?

Bueller......Bueller!.........Anyone! Anyone!.......
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 09:19
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Sticky?

I'm not sure - I think the moderators have to do that. I'll see what I can do...
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 10:26
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The Poll has been Sabotaged

Bograt sorry buddy your Poll has been sabotaged. I have watched about 200 Yes votes for SLS and CoS08 get clicked on in the last hour.... Someone in management must have quite a bit of bonus riding on the uptake of this.
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 11:03
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always possible that this is the view of those who read pprune!
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 11:08
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Yes however only as long as you believe there were 200 people voting yes in the space of an hour.
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 11:21
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Thanks for trying but the poll is useless as it cannot be verified and is subject to abuse.

The ONLY valid poll is a VOTE by the members.
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 11:28
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GE90

almost correct. The vote setup by Bograt does not actually specify 'members' and 'non-members' - AOA or A.N Other, so doesn't it therefore apply to anybody under the SLS/Cos08 n'est-ce-pas?

But of course you can continue living/swimming in your own fishbowl-world...

Regards,

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Old 22nd April 2009 | 11:30
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Weakforce is right......
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 11:32
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GMA on pprune

A very reliable source informs me that current GMA used to be tasked with writing on PPRUNE. Makes you wonder whose job it is to sabotage an online poll. No way have 400 guys logged on and voted since I did 7hrs ago. Thanks again mismanagement for showing us what depths you will plumb to get your way. Like giving us 10 days to make a career altering decision!
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 11:41
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Seems very odd how the trend has suddenly reversed...
Intimidation continues...
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Old 22nd April 2009 | 12:43
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i can just see GMA now, signing in with 100's of Pprune use id's to massage a simple on-line poll can't you?

come on guys, lets get a little bit of a reality check on this! would the results of an online poll on FH really intimidate you....if so, maybe it is time for some SLS to re-evaluate where your balls ended up hiding over the past years.
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