CX "New Vision and Mission': here we go again
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For CX crew, 'Vision and Mission' statements are now (individually addressed on a computer printout) in your Flight Crew mailboxes. History has shown twice during the last two decades in CX that when this sort of psychobabble appears, pressure on crew usually follows; flying yet more hours, pay cuts and 'help' in other forms may be on the agenda. Cargo fines and fuel hedging losses are not your problem, although Management will try to make it so.
Read your HKAOA Updates thoroughly. Do your job and keep your head down until the next crew shortage, which will be a doozy; there are few pilots left to leave the military, and the few Gen Y kids who are actually interested in aviation currently have difficulty borrowing the funds required to learn to fly. Whether it is six months, two years or five to the next upturn, the industry will need lots of us. In the meantime, humanity will still need to travel, and as a bonus the Hudson River ditching has caught the attention of the travelling public with regard to our technical competence and responsibilities.
Good luck to us all!
Read your HKAOA Updates thoroughly. Do your job and keep your head down until the next crew shortage, which will be a doozy; there are few pilots left to leave the military, and the few Gen Y kids who are actually interested in aviation currently have difficulty borrowing the funds required to learn to fly. Whether it is six months, two years or five to the next upturn, the industry will need lots of us. In the meantime, humanity will still need to travel, and as a bonus the Hudson River ditching has caught the attention of the travelling public with regard to our technical competence and responsibilities.
Good luck to us all!
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'Operation Better Shape' and the 'Commitments' were a prelude to the introduction of B Scales"
No, really? Dont you think striving for better shape would include cutting labor costs. How much growth do you think CX would have seen were it saddled with A scale only.
Just take a look at how many jets are sitting idle at CLK. These are not scare tactics, CX, like every airline, is in for a VERY rough ride and the downturn has not even started to kick in.
So, what will you guys do to ensure CX survives, cos bitchin and moanin on pprune about how dumb your managers are compared to how smart you monkey operators are is not going to do diddly squat. You could all be replaced tomorrow by button pushers on half your dough and the end result would look no different.
So what you gunna do? Any suggestions?
No, really? Dont you think striving for better shape would include cutting labor costs. How much growth do you think CX would have seen were it saddled with A scale only.
Just take a look at how many jets are sitting idle at CLK. These are not scare tactics, CX, like every airline, is in for a VERY rough ride and the downturn has not even started to kick in.
So, what will you guys do to ensure CX survives, cos bitchin and moanin on pprune about how dumb your managers are compared to how smart you monkey operators are is not going to do diddly squat. You could all be replaced tomorrow by button pushers on half your dough and the end result would look no different.
So what you gunna do? Any suggestions?
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You obviously didnt see the freight apron the other day.
Full planes, yep, surely an indication of profit. Hahahahahaha.
Tony has cried wolf but the interesting thing about the story of the little boy that cried wolf is - he was mince meat when the actual wolf showed up and no body believed him.
Whats that, can I hear footsteps?
Full planes, yep, surely an indication of profit. Hahahahahaha.
Tony has cried wolf but the interesting thing about the story of the little boy that cried wolf is - he was mince meat when the actual wolf showed up and no body believed him.
Whats that, can I hear footsteps?
mmmmm, maybe although there always were a lot of Freighters sitting in HKG most days.
If CX hadn't screwed up the fuel hedging we would still be making quite a good profit with the fuel price so low. In fact this year they forecast a fuel bill 20 billion less than last year.
Don't feel sorry for CX, we will still be around for a long long time to come.
As others have said, wait for the day the executives take a big pay cut, then start to concern yourselves.
If CX hadn't screwed up the fuel hedging we would still be making quite a good profit with the fuel price so low. In fact this year they forecast a fuel bill 20 billion less than last year.
Don't feel sorry for CX, we will still be around for a long long time to come.
As others have said, wait for the day the executives take a big pay cut, then start to concern yourselves.
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here they are crying about having to save money and they come out spending money on this crap and filling my mail box up with it too.... and now they want to spend more wasted money on painting up 3 aircraft in one world colors.
So is this what the savings of FLWOP are paying for??
So is this what the savings of FLWOP are paying for??
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The recent Cathay released Mission statement has me wondering. I was talking with a friend who has run some successful companies around the world and she laughed at Cathay's new mission statement.
She would get her junior staff to write this dribble so she could see what they were made of. She said "It's one thing to write the stuff but another to actual try to live up to what they write".
Classic example is "Our vision is to be the world’s best airline."
No harm in saying that but what are you actually doing about it? Reducing size of meals, old movies, herring bone seating, removing the amount of newspapers, reducing the size of seat width and depth.
As Cathay have said in it's advertising campaign
"It's the little things that matter"
Well Cathay - It is the little things that matter. That is why people don't want to fly with you, sometimes they have no other choice. You used to be a Leader in Airlines but now you are a sheep and following everyone else.
A great company leads from the front, and to be honest I don't see Cathay coming second nor third behind the leaders now.
That's my two cents worth.
She would get her junior staff to write this dribble so she could see what they were made of. She said "It's one thing to write the stuff but another to actual try to live up to what they write".
Classic example is "Our vision is to be the world’s best airline."
No harm in saying that but what are you actually doing about it? Reducing size of meals, old movies, herring bone seating, removing the amount of newspapers, reducing the size of seat width and depth.
As Cathay have said in it's advertising campaign
"It's the little things that matter"
Well Cathay - It is the little things that matter. That is why people don't want to fly with you, sometimes they have no other choice. You used to be a Leader in Airlines but now you are a sheep and following everyone else.
A great company leads from the front, and to be honest I don't see Cathay coming second nor third behind the leaders now.
That's my two cents worth.
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I don't know about you guys, but all these tools making weekly updates seem a bit bi-polar to me.
They always start with "well, the economy keeps worsening and our figures XX behind target, and they don't look like they will improve".
But they always seem to finish of with "well, like to thank the staff for another very busy week and for koping with such heavy loads".
It is almost as if the guy who wrote the intro is not the same as they guy who wrapped it up. Knowing how things operate in China and HK, maybe there is an actual department that exists in CX just for writting these updates and they do not come from upper management. This department works in shifts and there is a structure which dictates that the first half of the update is written before lunch, and the end is written after by a different guy.
They always start with "well, the economy keeps worsening and our figures XX behind target, and they don't look like they will improve".
But they always seem to finish of with "well, like to thank the staff for another very busy week and for koping with such heavy loads".
It is almost as if the guy who wrote the intro is not the same as they guy who wrapped it up. Knowing how things operate in China and HK, maybe there is an actual department that exists in CX just for writting these updates and they do not come from upper management. This department works in shifts and there is a structure which dictates that the first half of the update is written before lunch, and the end is written after by a different guy.
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The usual story at CX :
It's the **** in the sandwich, my friend.... the gool ol' **** in the sandwich.
Only that this one would make even a 'pizza-by-the-meter' look like finger food at a party.
Go figure !
It's the **** in the sandwich, my friend.... the gool ol' **** in the sandwich.
Only that this one would make even a 'pizza-by-the-meter' look like finger food at a party.
Go figure !
