Voluntary LOAs are here....
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Voluntary LOAs are here....
Looks like there are voluntary LOAs available. Anyone want to speculate where this is headed, and how many takers there will be? 
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Are we better off not taking leave to have a light roster instead? Interesting to note that leave is available from today onwards... That will give the scheduling crew a headache....
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I see the memo neglected to mention who to contact in order to volunteer. I also notice no mention of which bases will be accepting volunteers, what the conditions will be, how it will affect longevity/seniority, health care coverage etc. Time to review the CoS. I speculate more to come...
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I see the memo neglected to mention who to contact in order to volunteer. I also notice no mention of which bases will be accepting volunteers, what the conditions will be, how it will affect longevity/seniority, health care coverage etc. Time to review the CoS. I speculate more to come...
However I agree with your last sentence.
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I've not seen the memo but it wold seem sensible for them to fulfill their obligations in respect of normal leave first. Most people I speak to have only got a couple of weeks for next year and some have none!
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Very true bug, I've spoken to many people who don't even have their annual leave allocated for 2009, as there aren't enough available weeks ??? They should probably cover that before they start asking people to take free leave.
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It sounds like LOA could be a bad deal.
1 week leave costs you 25% of your pay but like 1 week of regular leave, you work a full month regardless.
2 weeks costs you 50% of your salary so instead of 12-14 days of work you work 8-10. 75% work for 50% pay.
3 weeks costs you 75% pay but you still work 4-5 days or 30-40% work for 25% pay.
4 weeks is the only way the company will not benefit from less wages.
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1 week leave costs you 25% of your pay but like 1 week of regular leave, you work a full month regardless.
2 weeks costs you 50% of your salary so instead of 12-14 days of work you work 8-10. 75% work for 50% pay.
3 weeks costs you 75% pay but you still work 4-5 days or 30-40% work for 25% pay.
4 weeks is the only way the company will not benefit from less wages.
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What really 
's me off is that we are now expected to pay for the (mis ) managements mistakes, especially WRT the freight fines and fuel hedging.
Are the loads really that bad ? I know ours definitely are not.
Most of the figures being shoved down our neck are in relation to " projected growth " which are pitted against a record year last year. How about a few realistic figures, ie: what loads do we need to turn a profit, or what loads do we need to not make a loss ? Not : what loads do we need to put TT et al into new Rollers next year.
Dear Management
you are running a business, like any business there will be highs and lows,just because you had a record year last year does not mean you will have one every year, you CANNOT expect your employees to bend over every time you go through a bit of a tough time, unless you are happy to a) offer extra leave next time things go really well or b) expect your employees to leave.
Regards
Fooey
PS yes, I realise CX paid the LWOP back last time, but we pilots do not offer 12 months interest free, nor do our banks, credit cards etc etc
's me off is that we are now expected to pay for the (mis ) managements mistakes, especially WRT the freight fines and fuel hedging. Are the loads really that bad ? I know ours definitely are not.
Most of the figures being shoved down our neck are in relation to " projected growth " which are pitted against a record year last year. How about a few realistic figures, ie: what loads do we need to turn a profit, or what loads do we need to not make a loss ? Not : what loads do we need to put TT et al into new Rollers next year.
Dear Management
you are running a business, like any business there will be highs and lows,just because you had a record year last year does not mean you will have one every year, you CANNOT expect your employees to bend over every time you go through a bit of a tough time, unless you are happy to a) offer extra leave next time things go really well or b) expect your employees to leave.
Regards
Fooey
PS yes, I realise CX paid the LWOP back last time, but we pilots do not offer 12 months interest free, nor do our banks, credit cards etc etc
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hongkongfooey
Spot on post mate. You said what I have been saying for ages, well done sir.
HardRock
You sir, have been here 5 mins or you believe what everybody tells you!!!!
Spot on post mate. You said what I have been saying for ages, well done sir.
HardRock
You sir, have been here 5 mins or you believe what everybody tells you!!!!
One tonne under MTOW today, one on the jump seat and holds full of seafood.
The fuel 'should' have been cheap, too.
The fuel 'should' have been cheap, too.
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Loads
Since when do loads ever determine if CX (or any airline) make or lose money? You can sell 100% of your seats at $100 or 80% of your seats at $150 - which makes more money?
Higher loads just mean greater efficiency, not more profit.
However, I totally agree with the annual leave. Give that before offering unpaid.
Higher loads just mean greater efficiency, not more profit.
However, I totally agree with the annual leave. Give that before offering unpaid.