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Whatever happened to courtesy in Hong Kong ATC?

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Old 28th Jan 2008, 12:14
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Good morning/day/evening/year Mr Inciter; where do we (or you) place HK in the overall (difficulty) scheme of things. If you think that mere runway movements at the home airport is the sole measure of whether or not ATC people are busy or in a bit of a stew, then I question your "smarts". There are a myriad of aspects that make ATC workload go up and down, ranging from runway configurations, taxyway layouts, other airports in the terminal area, idiots (on both ends of the radio) etc, etc, etc. I assume from your post that you are a "big aeroplane, international driver", well try telling the 21 year old guy flying a single pilot IFR baron into Bankstown at night when there is a southerly buster going through the Sydney area about workload. OK, he's not a hero driving a B747, but so what! Trying to stay alive can have it's moments. My point being that the old phrase "Lies, damned lies and statistics" should be noted. At times Controllers anywhere, at any airport can be up to their ears in crap, and the same applies to the whole swathe of the flying fraternity. A normally intelligent person will recognise this and do with or without the pleasantries as needed.
I'm principally pissed that this fairly innocuous and probably tongue in cheek thread (on PPRuNe) was blown out of all proportion by some of the media here in HK, and managed to make it into both the English (SCMP) and Chinese press when there was no call for this to happen, especially the supposed opinion of an annonymous "Senior Airbus Captain...."
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 14:13
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Now, now, SuzieWong...

Are you missing your right base at VMMC?
SuzieWong, up until your post, I was ready to concede that the new generation of controllers which you unquestionably belong to had had a flawless training for such a demanding professional activity. Unfortunately, you have just ruined everything with this single comment. You’ve shown us all how flawed your training was by not realising what the “right base at VMMC” or any other shortcut, for that matter, means to an airline in the long run. In the old days it was a sure thing, we didn’t even have to ask, it was given any time the conditions permitted. Presently, it is totally out of the question even thinking about asking for it and I stopped requesting it the moment I noticed that new accent in the frequency. You know, I understand it’s a tough job being a good professional in this environment, and the more I think about it, the more respect and admiration I have for the older generation that was sitting where you are now. They were top professionals, but with a touch (the right amount) of charm. And that, I can assure you, is even tougher. Finally, I suggest you read again what sylversurfer wrote in his reply to your disastrous comment, you might learn something.

Best regards, nice talking to you too…

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