Hong Kong: Why do we live here?
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From: global
BScaler
Your complaining will not change the pollution in HK. You are free to take a base or leave. I suggest you consider your options if you are genuinely concerned about your health. You are becoming boring.
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From: Gweriniaeth Cymru
wnc,
suggest that Bscaler is keeping people informed of the reasons why he believes HK is not the best place in the world to live.
The way for people to undersand the problems of air polltuion in China is to read the research and findings of those people in the know.
The fact that most of the information here is coming from Bscaler, and seems to be getting up your nose - suggests that the pollution is of no real interest to you.
So WTF is te point of making a comment here, if you aren't interested? Suggest you ought to remain on whichever cloud you are currently circling on, since you don't seem to be able to see the reality of the sh!t quality of air here.
Brgd's
N1 Vibes
PS - found your other PP posts equally boring.
suggest that Bscaler is keeping people informed of the reasons why he believes HK is not the best place in the world to live.
The way for people to undersand the problems of air polltuion in China is to read the research and findings of those people in the know.
The fact that most of the information here is coming from Bscaler, and seems to be getting up your nose - suggests that the pollution is of no real interest to you.
So WTF is te point of making a comment here, if you aren't interested? Suggest you ought to remain on whichever cloud you are currently circling on, since you don't seem to be able to see the reality of the sh!t quality of air here.
Brgd's
N1 Vibes
PS - found your other PP posts equally boring.
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From: global
N1 Vibes
I think that there is enough info outside of these forums regarding pollution in China. Hardly a secret. My point is, we all have a choice. Stay or leave. Nobody has a gun at your head to make you stay in HK. Greed it would seem outweighs health concerns more often than not. Relax man its XMAS!
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From: europe
if I would have known about the level of pollution ( and other things..) here in Hong Kong, I never ever would have joined. I heard about the pollution, but the actual extent was simply much much more serious than I expected. There is still the odd clear day, and my interview was on one...
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From: HK
Any newcomers thinking of bring children here?
Just another glorious day in Hong Kong...
Here is today's pollution figures for your consumption. The first figure is the Air Pollution Index as calculated using a dubious, sleight of hand formula by the laughably named Environment Protection Department. The second figure is the same inputs applied to the internationally accepted World Health Organization air quality objectives. Note the magnitude of the difference in the result!
Source--Pollutant--EPD--API--Greenpeace API
Central/WesternRespirable Suspended Particulates-----56--------222
EasternRespirable Suspended Particulates---------------53------194.8
Kwai ChungRespirable Suspended Particulates----------56-------203.8
Kwun TongRespirable Suspended Particulates-----------54-------191.6
Sha TinRespirable Suspended Particulates---------------54-------173.4
Sham Shui PoRespirable Suspended Particulates--------55-------192.8
Tai PoRespirable Suspended Particulates-----------------57-------151.8
Tap MunRespirable Suspended Particulates--------------54-------107.4
Tsuen WanRespirable Suspended Particulates-----------56--------205
Tung ChungSulphur Dioxide------------------------------58--------47.2
Yuen LongRespirable Suspended Particulates------------61-------230.4
Causeway BayRespirable Suspended Particulates--------63-------253.2
CentralRespirable Suspended Particulates----------------73-------244.4
Anything over 100 is of concern. Not only are we subjected to this filth, we are lied to about it as well. When you do your due diligence in considering a move to Hong Kong, are you looking at just the company and career? How about the health of your family and children?
Do yourself a massive favour and read through www.cleartheair.org.hk, preferably with your other half if you have one. Add that to the mix before you drag your family up here.
They treat this place like a toilet. The sooner I leave, the better.
Here is today's pollution figures for your consumption. The first figure is the Air Pollution Index as calculated using a dubious, sleight of hand formula by the laughably named Environment Protection Department. The second figure is the same inputs applied to the internationally accepted World Health Organization air quality objectives. Note the magnitude of the difference in the result!
Source--Pollutant--EPD--API--Greenpeace API
Central/WesternRespirable Suspended Particulates-----56--------222
EasternRespirable Suspended Particulates---------------53------194.8
Kwai ChungRespirable Suspended Particulates----------56-------203.8
Kwun TongRespirable Suspended Particulates-----------54-------191.6
Sha TinRespirable Suspended Particulates---------------54-------173.4
Sham Shui PoRespirable Suspended Particulates--------55-------192.8
Tai PoRespirable Suspended Particulates-----------------57-------151.8
Tap MunRespirable Suspended Particulates--------------54-------107.4
Tsuen WanRespirable Suspended Particulates-----------56--------205
Tung ChungSulphur Dioxide------------------------------58--------47.2
Yuen LongRespirable Suspended Particulates------------61-------230.4
Causeway BayRespirable Suspended Particulates--------63-------253.2
CentralRespirable Suspended Particulates----------------73-------244.4
Anything over 100 is of concern. Not only are we subjected to this filth, we are lied to about it as well. When you do your due diligence in considering a move to Hong Kong, are you looking at just the company and career? How about the health of your family and children?
Do yourself a massive favour and read through www.cleartheair.org.hk, preferably with your other half if you have one. Add that to the mix before you drag your family up here.
They treat this place like a toilet. The sooner I leave, the better.
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From: HK
Just another day in Paradise
Last night I woke up at about 0230. For the first time (for me personally) I could smell a slight, foul sulphurlike "burning metal" smell. Yesterday was actually a nice clear day, and it was clear when I went to bed. Curious, I thought. I opened up the curtains and was stunned.Despite the strong wind blowing (you guessed it, straight from China) there was a thick, white "fog". I quickly realised the "fog" was infact a thick blanket of white smoke. Here is this morning's Air Pollution Index figures. As per the above post, ignore the government provided API (the first figure) which is manipulated. Look at the second figure, which is a result of the inputs applied to the accepted, internationally recognized method of calculating API.
I assumed the figures would be high (above 100)....but was stunned, then angry at the results:
SourcePollutantEPD APIGreenpeace API
Central/Western Respirable Suspended Particulates----58-----358.4
Eastern Respirable Suspended Particulates--------------51-----323.8
Kwai Chung Respirable Suspended Particulates----------59----341.6
Kwun Tong Respirable Suspended Particulates-----------58----342.6
Sha Tin Respirable Suspended Particulates---------------48----370.8
Sham Shui Po Respirable Suspended Particulates--------62----327.2
Tai Po Respirable Suspended Particulates----------------57------359
Tap Mun Respirable Suspended Particulates--------------53----286.2
Tsuen Wan Respirable Suspended Particulates-----------58----352.6
Tung Chung Respirable Suspended Particulates----------57----213.2
Yuen Long Respirable Suspended Particulates------------64----296.2
Causeway Bay Respirable Suspended Particulates--------68-----349
Central Respirable Suspended Particulates---------------73-----363.2
Anything over 100 is of concern...anything over 300...
If we take these corrected figures and apply them to a country that doesn't mislead you about these matters, you get a sobering public warning. The following is the public guideline for the US/Canada:
USA/Canada Air Quality Index (AQI)
AQI 301-500
Hazardous
State of emergency would be declared. All will be affected.
No such warning from our local Environment Protection Department...why am I not suprised?
If you are thinking of moving to HK, and you have children, or you are health conscious to any degree, and understand the pollution here, and you still elect to come here...
...you need your head read.
Today:
I can't see buildings I can see on a clear day.
I can't see across the harbor.
I can't make out any detail on what hills I can see.
Last edited by Dirty Lungs; 21st January 2008 at 15:11.
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From: nowhere
There are 7 millions biotic air-purifiers here, we are just part of it nolens volens. Take a deep breath when you come round from suffocation in the morning and that might be the best one of the day.
We (HK) need your support (your lungs)!
We (HK) need your support (your lungs)!
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From: England
Health Effects On Young Children
It's well worth keeping this thread bouncin' along at the top of the forum to advise new joiners and wannabees what they are getting themselves and ESPECIALLY their families into.
Mod: Perhaps it should be a sticky?
Mod: Perhaps it should be a sticky?
