How many are leaving CX ?
Call me Captain?
The claim that QF Capts have to be called "Captain" or "Sir" is one of the greatest urban myths to ever circulate. If you did this on the 737 or 767 you'd be laughed off the flightdeck.
Am amazed at how many CX guys actually believe this!!
I would generally regard the QF flightdeck culture as being equal to or better than CX. Certainly CRM issues such as involving the S/O in the operation is better at QF. . . . . partly as a result of the QF1 incident.
Am amazed at how many CX guys actually believe this!!
I would generally regard the QF flightdeck culture as being equal to or better than CX. Certainly CRM issues such as involving the S/O in the operation is better at QF. . . . . partly as a result of the QF1 incident.
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Salt is correct. For some reason this myth exists in cx, perpetuated by bitter expat aussies, most of whom came from australian regional airlines, and have a chip on their shoulder re their qf rejection letter.
This behaviour may still exist on the 400 in qf to some minor extent, but these days is very much in the minority.
So no capts in cx ever get addressed 'capt'?
This behaviour may still exist on the 400 in qf to some minor extent, but these days is very much in the minority.
So no capts in cx ever get addressed 'capt'?
Well thanks...........I'm not an ex-regional bitter expat Aussie thanks all the same.
It is true that in recent times the new blood of Captains in Qf don't insist on being called "skipper", but it most definately was the case a while ago.
I get called a lot of things from my crew, Captain ain't one of em
The only people that call me Captain are the ground staff.
It is true that in recent times the new blood of Captains in Qf don't insist on being called "skipper", but it most definately was the case a while ago.
I get called a lot of things from my crew, Captain ain't one of em
The only people that call me Captain are the ground staff.
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Hmmmm....
After 14 years in CX I'm not bothered by the whole CX vx QF thing. (Had the opportunity to go QF but thankfully never did) so here's a story I do know:
had the pleasure of flying with an ex-QF guy/girl who changed over from QF many moons ago. One of the stories he/she told was when he/she was checking into a hotel with Mr/Mrs QF "friendly CRM" captain. No rooms were ready so "Skipper" decides to piss & and moan about how important he/she is until Hotel finally provides room. Rest of crew patiently wait their turn until rooms are avail. The SO, as last flight crew standing who HASN'T made song & dance about short delay (all of about 20 minutes, boo-hoo) gets given the 'Hollywood suite' as reward for his/her manners & patience. No problem until check-out, when QF "Skipper" notices over-the-top gold braided key returned by said SO. "How come you got the 'Princess Diana' suite??? Who the **** do you think you are??? That should've been my room - why didn't you call me to tell me what room you had?!?" come the protests from the Skipper. Suffice to say, said SO was not shy in telling he/she that "maybe if you hadn't been such a pompous prick/prickette and carried on like you were the last effing King of Scotland you would have got the room"...
Can anyone guess the result? That's right, the captain got his/her head pulled-in and the "smartarse" SO got praised for their response... NOT.
As I said earlier - people looooove the "CX guys/gals are all aresholes" but they don't have a monopoly on the matter.
Come to think of it, maybe I will go QF. "Skipper" sounds awesome.
had the pleasure of flying with an ex-QF guy/girl who changed over from QF many moons ago. One of the stories he/she told was when he/she was checking into a hotel with Mr/Mrs QF "friendly CRM" captain. No rooms were ready so "Skipper" decides to piss & and moan about how important he/she is until Hotel finally provides room. Rest of crew patiently wait their turn until rooms are avail. The SO, as last flight crew standing who HASN'T made song & dance about short delay (all of about 20 minutes, boo-hoo) gets given the 'Hollywood suite' as reward for his/her manners & patience. No problem until check-out, when QF "Skipper" notices over-the-top gold braided key returned by said SO. "How come you got the 'Princess Diana' suite??? Who the **** do you think you are??? That should've been my room - why didn't you call me to tell me what room you had?!?" come the protests from the Skipper. Suffice to say, said SO was not shy in telling he/she that "maybe if you hadn't been such a pompous prick/prickette and carried on like you were the last effing King of Scotland you would have got the room"...
Can anyone guess the result? That's right, the captain got his/her head pulled-in and the "smartarse" SO got praised for their response... NOT.
As I said earlier - people looooove the "CX guys/gals are all aresholes" but they don't have a monopoly on the matter.
Come to think of it, maybe I will go QF. "Skipper" sounds awesome.
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ya' ll crack me up with the "briticism".
I have yet to start at Cx but surely I am amused by the "characters" flying those fantastic machines.
............ski
I have yet to start at Cx but surely I am amused by the "characters" flying those fantastic machines.
............ski
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Life after missing out on Upgrades at CX
It appears that there is life after being turned down for an upgrade at Cathay - be it the QL upgrade check to become a 'full' FO, or Command upgrade.
That life has turned out to be Emirates for some.
One candidate who recently failed a Cathay Command Course has turned to Emirates - he has a start date in March and has been told he'll probably have an A380 Command there in a few years.
Anecdotally, I know of many JFOs who, having 'failed' a QL, (now they wouldn't simply be held back just because they still have a useable FO on the roster and it saves the Company around $100,000 for each candidate they knock back would they...?!), are considering Emirates as well.
Little wonder. Food for thought for those who are considering whether Cathay really is the Holy Grail of Airline jobs.
That life has turned out to be Emirates for some.
One candidate who recently failed a Cathay Command Course has turned to Emirates - he has a start date in March and has been told he'll probably have an A380 Command there in a few years.
Anecdotally, I know of many JFOs who, having 'failed' a QL, (now they wouldn't simply be held back just because they still have a useable FO on the roster and it saves the Company around $100,000 for each candidate they knock back would they...?!), are considering Emirates as well.
Little wonder. Food for thought for those who are considering whether Cathay really is the Holy Grail of Airline jobs.
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Park
Millstream. Over at KA they seem to be choosing PARK.
4th 400 BCF no crew, so park.
2 x A330 parked up from Jan because of leavers to Air China. No more command courses until April.
I'm sure NC can work out what it must be costing them.
4th 400 BCF no crew, so park.
2 x A330 parked up from Jan because of leavers to Air China. No more command courses until April.
I'm sure NC can work out what it must be costing them.
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5 x fo's
1x Tiger (BNE based FO figured no command on base possible)
3x Own Airline
1X QF (SYD based DEFO figured no command on base possible)
Now there is news of 1x to EK if this is true then it is 6 in one month.
Not bad considering that the job down under have not come on line yet.
Spoke to 2 based Fo's and apparently the penny has dropped about the shortage of Capt bases for the future so they are both waiting for the VB jobs to come on line.
The latest from Crew Control was a session of begging a sic FO to get better soon as their manning levels were critical...(Maybe now PW could do some relief...would like to see NR as my second officer
1x Tiger (BNE based FO figured no command on base possible)
3x Own Airline
1X QF (SYD based DEFO figured no command on base possible)
Now there is news of 1x to EK if this is true then it is 6 in one month.
Not bad considering that the job down under have not come on line yet.
Spoke to 2 based Fo's and apparently the penny has dropped about the shortage of Capt bases for the future so they are both waiting for the VB jobs to come on line.
The latest from Crew Control was a session of begging a sic FO to get better soon as their manning levels were critical...(Maybe now PW could do some relief...would like to see NR as my second officer
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Can't be true, my seniority number has not changed in over a year, all must be well????
But seriously, anybody know what the excuse is for not updating the seniority list?
But seriously, anybody know what the excuse is for not updating the seniority list?