Question about job offer
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Poydras, there are 3 scales to consider. Currently there are pax and Freighter scales and the intent is from Jan 08 to only have UFO scales. To explain the politics, very few pax FOs in the states today. Until we get 777ER basings it has been SoP to recruit on freighter pay since that is where vast majority of US based pilots have been needed. From now on the majority of new based recruits will be needed on pax side(777ERs). The current pax salary is around60% higher than freighter pay scale so CX would like to pay a lot less.
So here are CoS2007pay scales:
Pax 07 Frtr 07 UFO 08
$103,440 $63,504 $71,301
$106,800 $69,504 $72,722
$109,920 $75,504 $74,179
$113,160 $81,000 $90,478
$116,040 $87,036 $107,383
$118,920 $90,012 $109,538
$121,680 $95,256 $111,717
$124,320 $100,320 $113,953
$126,840 $101,844 $116,237
$129,240 $103,428 $118,567
$131,640
$133,680
$135,840
$137,760
The 2008 figures have no payrise...CX was suggesting 3/3% for 08/09. You will get 15.5% PF and HDP(approx 3-5%) on top. Once onshoring occurs you will need to consider FICA etc.
There are 10 pay points in the UFO scale....in a 'no sep 11, asian contagion, SARS or major downturn' scenario, command is likely to be 12-13 years.
Rapid commands will only exist while freighter pay is so low. WHilst CX has low freighter pay salary it costs CX a fortune in training and conversion costs and ultimately the salary bill is higher for CX as by the time the 'rapid command' commander acquires equivalent pax command seniority, he will be a SCN 8 or 9 doing the same pax job as a CN1 but earning $20,000 a month more! The money they save on the salary bill today costs them more in future as well as more strain on the training department. But still, there is no money in freight and there is no way B scale command pay for freighter pilots could save them money!
So here are CoS2007pay scales:
Pax 07 Frtr 07 UFO 08
$103,440 $63,504 $71,301
$106,800 $69,504 $72,722
$109,920 $75,504 $74,179
$113,160 $81,000 $90,478
$116,040 $87,036 $107,383
$118,920 $90,012 $109,538
$121,680 $95,256 $111,717
$124,320 $100,320 $113,953
$126,840 $101,844 $116,237
$129,240 $103,428 $118,567
$131,640
$133,680
$135,840
$137,760
The 2008 figures have no payrise...CX was suggesting 3/3% for 08/09. You will get 15.5% PF and HDP(approx 3-5%) on top. Once onshoring occurs you will need to consider FICA etc.
There are 10 pay points in the UFO scale....in a 'no sep 11, asian contagion, SARS or major downturn' scenario, command is likely to be 12-13 years.
Rapid commands will only exist while freighter pay is so low. WHilst CX has low freighter pay salary it costs CX a fortune in training and conversion costs and ultimately the salary bill is higher for CX as by the time the 'rapid command' commander acquires equivalent pax command seniority, he will be a SCN 8 or 9 doing the same pax job as a CN1 but earning $20,000 a month more! The money they save on the salary bill today costs them more in future as well as more strain on the training department. But still, there is no money in freight and there is no way B scale command pay for freighter pilots could save them money!
