Hong Kong Airlines - more resignations?
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3 confirmed resignations.....I am aware of a handful of others that have their CV's in with some major carriers. The indication is that most of them will give HKA till June 08. If it remains status quo then they will definatly leave for bigger aircraft and better pay.
I do feel for GR as he is doing his best with Management
. Wouldnt be suprised if he hands in his resignation next year!
Whats wrong with giving the pilots a better housing aloowance..say $15,000HK - $20,000HK. Atleast this way guys will be prepared to wait for the command upgrade.
Whats the deal with "CAPTAIN" EC from CAD??? My understanding is that he has never held a command as he was deemed unfit to hoild a position on the left hand seat? You'd think he was the GMF of HKA/HKE with the way he carries himself in his "4 bars"!!!
I do feel for GR as he is doing his best with Management
. Wouldnt be suprised if he hands in his resignation next year!Whats wrong with giving the pilots a better housing aloowance..say $15,000HK - $20,000HK. Atleast this way guys will be prepared to wait for the command upgrade.
Whats the deal with "CAPTAIN" EC from CAD??? My understanding is that he has never held a command as he was deemed unfit to hoild a position on the left hand seat? You'd think he was the GMF of HKA/HKE with the way he carries himself in his "4 bars"!!!
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Why would you wait until June? That's the whole bloody problem!! Most want to sit on the fence unprepaired to 'tinkle or get off the pot". This attitude is playing right into management's hands. Why will they improve pay and conditions while people "wait until June" and still more keep arriving. If you don't have the courage of your convictions then just shut up and eat the cr@p you are served. Unfortunately the vast majority of pilots are just full of p1ss and wind.
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Ouch.....dont shoot the messenger. Maybe have a word to your comrades.
El Kabong you are right though. I personally think that they are only waiting for the command upgrade to be approved by then...if it hasnt happened by then...I know atleast 13 guys personally that will hand in their resignations in June. Most of them have the cv's on top of the pile with some major carriers.
Isnt it funny about one of the resignees yesterday...he hasnt even started line training yet and he's off! Good on him! (Good on the other 2 as well!)
HKA....a trend has begun!
El Kabong you are right though. I personally think that they are only waiting for the command upgrade to be approved by then...if it hasnt happened by then...I know atleast 13 guys personally that will hand in their resignations in June. Most of them have the cv's on top of the pile with some major carriers.
Isnt it funny about one of the resignees yesterday...he hasnt even started line training yet and he's off! Good on him! (Good on the other 2 as well!)
HKA....a trend has begun!
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15-20K housing, sorry, discressionary allowance just wont cut it 
What about the poor wages ( 30% below Dragon for you deluded HKA managers ), lack of holidays, no 13th mth bonus, crap sick leave, crap ( ie no ) education allowance, crap staff travel, etc etc.
Hsng is the absolute tip of the iceberg.
These guys want to be major players, paying minor league wages.
Good luck with that HKA, I'm joining Kabong ( well, not literally ), and I have a feeling I wont be alone when the pittance is offered at the end of the year
What about the
poor wages ( 30% below Dragon for you deluded HKA managers ), lack of holidays, no 13th mth bonus, crap sick leave, crap ( ie no ) education allowance, crap staff travel, etc etc. Hsng is the absolute tip of the iceberg.
These guys want to be major players, paying minor league wages.
Good luck with that HKA, I'm joining Kabong ( well, not literally ), and I have a feeling I wont be alone when the pittance is offered at the end of the year
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As mentioned earlier...when the pittance is offered 13 pretty much confirmed will resign. A few cpatains also heading back to Shenzhen airlines. By the way...can anyone give me the latest figures for KA package?
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Tick Tock, Tick Tock........................................................ .
Everybody I fly with is talking about/doing something about leaving if there is no improvement soon.
HKA, forget about the upgrade programme, their will be no one suitable left to upgrade, you are extremely ignorant if you think you can continue serving up the worst conditions, by a mile, in HK aviation.
Watch this space...................
Everybody I fly with is talking about/doing something about leaving if there is no improvement soon.
HKA, forget about the upgrade programme, their will be no one suitable left to upgrade, you are extremely ignorant if you think you can continue serving up the worst conditions, by a mile, in HK aviation.
Watch this space...................
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just got the news, no improvement or reply even with email sent to the management, another 2 guys confirmed RESIGNING by this year so the total is 15, 20 ? sounds like a sinking ship 
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15 to 20 resignations eh?...............What the hell have you been smoking? There may be 15 to 20 wingeing and whining, but only four have resigned. Only four have had the guts to "walk the talk", the rest just go blah blah blah blah blah. While they sit around and tolerate the lies and deceit generated by this company they deserve what they get.
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Give us a chance hoof, even in the current climate it takes more than a couple of weeks to line up a new job.
Be assured there are plenty of applications going out, and interviews etc in the near future, not just whinging.
We will re-visit this in a couple of months.........................
Be assured there are plenty of applications going out, and interviews etc in the near future, not just whinging.
We will re-visit this in a couple of months.........................
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Whats the story with the new 'Director of Operations"? Who is he....what will he do...when will he start? What's the story about the fracas at HKA HQ with him and other management pilots?
If the new package doesnt go through by xmas then 4 more guys are heading back to Aus/NZ by March at the latest.
If the new package doesnt go through by xmas then 4 more guys are heading back to Aus/NZ by March at the latest.
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I believe a base salary $44500 + $17500 rent or $25000 if you own. Other benefits include $2000/month for you and your spouse for travel home, education for kids and increases in gratuity payments.
Lets hope santa's sleigh is full!
Lets hope santa's sleigh is full!
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Actually Hoofharted even though he sounds more like halfarsed, is half right.
If more guys actually spoke up and said something directly to management, they might realise pilots mean business. Not much can happen when only a few speak up. Good on those who walk with their feet, however, some may not be in the same situation to be able to pack up and leave.
So Hoofharted, I think the bullsh*t comes out your mouth.
If more guys actually spoke up and said something directly to management, they might realise pilots mean business. Not much can happen when only a few speak up. Good on those who walk with their feet, however, some may not be in the same situation to be able to pack up and leave.
So Hoofharted, I think the bullsh*t comes out your mouth.
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Actually Hoofharted even though he sounds more like halfarsed, is half right.
If more guys actually spoke up and said something directly to management, they might realise pilots mean business. Not much can happen when only a few speak up. Good on those who walk with their feet, however, some may not be in the same situation to be able to pack up and leave.
So Hoofharted, I think the bullsh*t comes out your mouth.
If more guys actually spoke up and said something directly to management, they might realise pilots mean business. Not much can happen when only a few speak up. Good on those who walk with their feet, however, some may not be in the same situation to be able to pack up and leave.
So Hoofharted, I think the bullsh*t comes out your mouth.
bravo 
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"Singaporean mob" moving in..mates! One already in there in training..medically grounded AHK mgnt. pilot mooting in his trooops from AHK to HK Air management....wiping out the present guys....snakes in the grass...man!!
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...check and training.... claimed as Capt. of GF in some malaysian airline ...belief..to be groomed as training manager...by incoming S'porean DFO...snake! Good luck mates!
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Why We Bother?
some of us have nothing better to do, so we come in here to slander others.
I drank myself out of a job @ SQ, then created a mess for myself over with Air Asia, came to hong kong when somebody gave me a break with AHK, ran off the runway soon as i started training, NO fault of mine, mind you, airbus didn't teach me the correct technique! But here i still am, with a job and lots of time on my hands.
Nothing better to do, just like you lot, really want to be somebody in the airline industry, but lack the abilities, cause everybody in the world just can't seem to see all my talents, which i know i have, i keep telling everyone that all the time.
I am one of the best, if not the best instructor in the world, if only they will give me a chance to share my knowledge and vast experience.
Guess the only way left for us LOSERS to get somewhere in this world is to slander everyone else. What have we got to lose? Got nothing better to do anyway.
some of us have nothing better to do, so we come in here to slander others.
I drank myself out of a job @ SQ, then created a mess for myself over with Air Asia, came to hong kong when somebody gave me a break with AHK, ran off the runway soon as i started training, NO fault of mine, mind you, airbus didn't teach me the correct technique! But here i still am, with a job and lots of time on my hands.
Nothing better to do, just like you lot, really want to be somebody in the airline industry, but lack the abilities, cause everybody in the world just can't seem to see all my talents, which i know i have, i keep telling everyone that all the time.
I am one of the best, if not the best instructor in the world, if only they will give me a chance to share my knowledge and vast experience.
Guess the only way left for us LOSERS to get somewhere in this world is to slander everyone else. What have we got to lose? Got nothing better to do anyway.