Hong Kong Airlines orders 50 Airbuses
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@CRWJERK.
Really? you mean going from a fleet of 10-11 B738's two years ago.. to a grand total of 2 today isn't a demise?
The entire western pilot cadre leaving, and safety standards at the same time?
Saw some Singaswine in court today defending another suit against them.
I actually called them a pack of ***** as we walked out to their faces. I've never seen such blatant lying and ignorance from an individual on the stand.
The airline has demised. Someone just has to tell them.
Really? you mean going from a fleet of 10-11 B738's two years ago.. to a grand total of 2 today isn't a demise?
The entire western pilot cadre leaving, and safety standards at the same time?
Saw some Singaswine in court today defending another suit against them.
I actually called them a pack of ***** as we walked out to their faces. I've never seen such blatant lying and ignorance from an individual on the stand.
The airline has demised. Someone just has to tell them.
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How can it not be a Demise?
Maybe not a complete and total demise but certainly a Demise. A demise caused 100% not by the economy and market forces but by the Singaporian management.
A demise in job security.
A demise in safety.
A demise in management Integrity.
A demise in Hong Kong Labour law protection.
A demise in honesty while on the stand in court. I believe thats called perjery and is a criminal offence.
A demise in fleet size.
A demise in CAD respect.
A demise in public trust.
A demise in staff job satisfaction.
I could go on here for another page. Get the point?
Interesting thing is that even pilots in my part of the world are not willing to go there as the HKA name is in the gutter. Even underpaid Asian pilots would rather earn less and get a little respect and job security. Perhaps a roadshow in Nigeria or Eastern Europe is next? Maybe word has not got that far. As the A330 will soon be going to Moscow, russian speaking an advantage 
A demise in job security.
A demise in safety.
A demise in management Integrity.
A demise in Hong Kong Labour law protection.
A demise in honesty while on the stand in court. I believe thats called perjery and is a criminal offence.
noun pl. perjuries -·ries
- the willful telling of a lie while under lawful oath or affirmation to tell the truth in a matter material to the point of inquiry
- the breaking of any oath or formal promise
A demise in CAD respect.
A demise in public trust.
A demise in staff job satisfaction.
I could go on here for another page. Get the point?
They'll get cheap labour because unfortunately that's the way our industry is going and people will work for peanuts.
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Sorry to blow my own horn, but I predicted 3 years and 6 months before HKA got thier first airbus that they would be parked against the fence due to lack of crews. 
Perhaps I could get a job in upper management and save the company millions with my excellent predictions. One problem though; I would take a pay cut from being a second officer if I became a Hong Kong Airlines director.
Perhaps HKA should have listened to my advice. Pay the $$ or park the shiny new jets
Perhaps I could get a job in upper management and save the company millions with my excellent predictions. One problem though; I would take a pay cut from being a second officer if I became a Hong Kong Airlines director.
Perhaps HKA should have listened to my advice. Pay the $$ or park the shiny new jets
That’s good news for the crews that want another endorsement and quick commands.
One small thing though..... How are they going to get the 250 +pilots needed to crew those aircraft when they pay the F/O's ONLY 42,000
and the Captains 60 something
; WITH NO HOUSING or any extras at all?
They are dreaming. Wake up management, or you will be parking those shiny new Boeings and Airbuses up against the fence. It’s a pilots market. Pay market rate or they walk. It is that simple.
One small thing though..... How are they going to get the 250 +pilots needed to crew those aircraft when they pay the F/O's ONLY 42,000
and the Captains 60 something; WITH NO HOUSING or any extras at all?They are dreaming. Wake up management, or you will be parking those shiny new Boeings and Airbuses up against the fence. It’s a pilots market. Pay market rate or they walk. It is that simple.
