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Air China Set To Buy HK Cathay Pacific Airlines - Report and Dragonair to buy Cathay,

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Old 30th Jan 2005, 13:00
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Thumbs up Dragonair to own Cathay


Investment Bankers in HKG looking at KA to purchase CX !!! Air China Holdings at top of the tree...

Good idea given the disasterous Management/Employee relations at CX and multiple court cases. Would probably raise the CX share price and inject some good management into a slipping company !

Look at the flag carrier go !!!
 
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Mouse eats cat!!!!!
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Old 31st Jan 2005, 14:53
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Merging the seniority will be interesting.
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Old 31st Jan 2005, 14:58
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Notice the overwhelming response...

CX stationery budget = KA operating budget. KA buys CX? Yeah, right.
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Old 31st Jan 2005, 20:57
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And just where would that good management come from? You're surely not suggesting KA
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Old 31st Jan 2005, 21:44
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KA, the same airline that was down to 7 days of finances during SARS and the same airline that is losing money as we speak on pax services (cargo keeps them afloat) are to buy CX.....

Wishful thinking maybe on some of the malcontents behalf but really, are you that thick?
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Old 1st Feb 2005, 00:04
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Good stir Lan Kwai but of course fong pei.
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No , youv'e all got it wrong. It's SQ that is buying both CX and KA in it's new slogan of "Asian Girl"
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Old 1st Feb 2005, 13:35
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The resources are vast, if Lenovo can buy IBM's PC business then surely KA with CNAC behind it can buy CX.
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Old 1st Feb 2005, 17:18
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Agreed

Its only money, and who knows, might be the best thing that has ever happend at CX as of late.

Long live merges and aquisitions!
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Old 2nd Feb 2005, 00:30
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And of course CNAC is now owned by Air China, which CX has a 10% stake in... like a dragon swallowing its tal
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Any news of contract compliance?
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Old 2nd Feb 2005, 13:40
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Why are CX finance staff in KA house looking at the confidential books?
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Old 2nd Feb 2005, 23:21
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I am sure you jest but just in case, could you tell me who your investment banker mates are, so I will know who to stay away from when it comes to market advice.

The reality is that CX is moving to full control of KA as we sit here pontificating. As noted above, the basic re-alignment of the CNAC, Air China and CX relationship makes this logical and relatively easy to achieve.

The rationale is two fold. Firstly it gives CX a second brand to deal with the LCC incursions from the south and secondly it adds value to KA by joining the dots.

In recent times KA's expansion has been hampered by lack of feeder traffic. While everyone sees the Shanghai/Beijing dominance there are a lot more empty seats on the network than there should be or would be with more feeder traffic coming off CX LH routes.

Then of course there is the bonus of it being a vehicle for CX SO's to get some actual flying !!

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Firewall,

Losing money on pac services - On what do you base that statement ? Sure it varies from route to route but overall I didn't think that was the case.

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Old 3rd Feb 2005, 19:27
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'The reality is that CX is moving to full control of KA'. Really?

Do you think that Beijing will give up it's airline in HK to be controlled by what is still perceived as a British company? KA is not a listed company - it's shares are privately owned and the only way CX will get more is if Beijing will sell some of theirs. What you are probably looking at is a larger share of KA to be taken by CX and/or Swire Pacific (my guess is to about a third) which will benefit both, as the CX/Swire board members on KA will stop spoiling and start co-operating. This is in with keeping with the 9.75% of Air China stock bought by CX deal - remember that CNAC owned Air China as it does the majority of Dragonair.

There will be no merger, and you certainly won't see Dragonair Aircraft being painted green. As Lan Kwai Wanchai stated, it's more likely Red Dragons will appear on the Green aircraft! China is not a free market economy - yet.
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whoops, sorry but it's GREEN paint being delivered to the Hangar not Red..................The big announcement should be around the end of March........................
 
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What a silly bunch you folks are.
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 16:00
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Tamalai,

Funny, I heard March mentioned at the airport today.

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Old 5th Feb 2005, 22:46
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The merging of the two pilot groups will be interesting if it does become a full takeover...Could be the end of quick upgrades at KA
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