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Old 21st October 2001 | 20:24
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1. i do not work for cx but im long haul 4 a freighter in hk ..... narrow it down !!!!

2. I & my colleagues have supported the aoa all along !

3.the fact is simple .....!

CX management are appalling ! .. i feel there is no doubt about that whatsoever ..
Indeed they live on a predatory perception of what they assume management 2 b !

Shocking !!! . quite Shocking !!!

However i do feel that the aoa has taken a rather long time 2 react to the events of september . When it comes to the fact that hundreds of people around the world have LOST their jobs I am equally sickened to see the boys still running around with yellow ribbons ...... like a$$$s patients !!!!!

Get a fxxxxxg grip guys !!!!!

build your company .... see it through... the hard times ...... and when the good times come again .......hit them between the eyes !!!!!!

ob !
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Old 21st October 2001 | 22:41
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Amen!
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Old 22nd October 2001 | 05:46
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Oriental bloke....

You sound a bit like an economic terrorist to me.

I agree with you about the ribbons - Yellow is still the colour of a coward. Guess the Wives are in black now!

AOA RIP.

Boeing Boeing
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Old 22nd October 2001 | 13:33
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Yellow Ribbons
The tradition of yellow ribbons as a symbol of support for the U.S. troops in Iraq first gained popularity in 1980 during the American hostage crisis in Iran. The idea is attributed to the 1973 song, "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Old Oak Tree", which was based on the true story of a prisoner coming home. The ex-convict told his wife that he could understand if she didn't want him anymore, but if she did want him back to tie a yellow handkerchief to the oak tree in the middle of town. And she did.

Source: Economist, 3/2/91, vol.318, p.29

Cowards, eh?

nasty, nasty.
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Old 22nd October 2001 | 14:45
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Kubota,

So you relate CX pilots to Convicts.. ummm.... I see the link. Social outcasts that should be locked away! Maybe you should think first. The profession is worthy of more rational and sensible arguements than wearing 'ribbons' and the AOA driving so called professions over the edge.

Yellow is still the colour of cowards and was so long before the pathetic song came out in '73. Sort of thing they sing at Butlins Holiday camps!

Anyone seen 'Demerlee' smile of late?

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Old 22nd October 2001 | 15:16
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Ribbon Campaigns-Yellow:

The original Yellow Ribbon campaign festooned trees in support of the hostages held in Iran.

Most of the yellow ribbon campaigns still focus on helping those in bondage.
http://rampages.onramp.net/~arthur/ribbons/yellow.htm

Why "cowards"? I just don't understand why you insist that a yellow ribbon is a sign of cowardice. It took a lot of cajones for some to pin them on...in the face of remarkable management hostility and intimidation, belligerence and extremism.

Time to grow up, just as the AOA has.

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Old 23rd October 2001 | 11:41
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Sorry Kubota, but the union leaders have not grown up they are still the same pathetic bunch of morons they were last Thursday. They still continue to hide and use others as a weapon in a war that they are too gutless to fight themselves. Yes I'm talking about the fact that these idiots claim that they go into renewed talks with no preconditions, yet are still attempting,in vain, to enforce the recruitment ban. These guys are stupid.
The ban was bought about to stop new joiners taking the positions of those who were dismissed (I refuse to call them the **ers , because they have nothing in common with the 89ers as you would have us believe), firstly this makes no sense, but I'm not going there again. So if it is not a precondition that they are reemployed then how can there still be a ban.
They are fools and I am glad I have nothing to do with them (and no I'm not affected by the ban at all).
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Old 23rd October 2001 | 19:55
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Kubota, do you drink coffee? Wake up ... the AOA have not seen the light at the end of the tunnel for what is was... defeat and humiliation. Sept 11 - that only made the light brighter and accelerate.

When you have 'bird brains', trained by the 'Arthur Scargill School of Unionism' leading the AOA you will only get poor ill informed leadership destined to ruin all. The rest of the thinking world is astonished that Demerlee and his sidekick cannot see they are about to fade into the history books (Dustbins) of failed Unions.

Yellow has always been the colour of Cowards. It took no b...s to wear a ribbon. It showed that the wearer(s) had no respect for the profession with childish antics. The ribbons have nothing to do with Iran. The suffering of those at the US Embassy was life threatening - hardly relevent to the pampered life of a CX driver.

Maybe they should leave and been happy doing nothing like many at AN, SR and sadly many more I fear as there are plenty in the queue to jump into their boots.

In closing the latest move by the Union is a hoax. They will crash the talks for sure and claim the Management are insincere. Usual bull.

Anyone seen 'Demerlee' smile recently....

Boeing Boeing

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Old 23rd October 2001 | 20:12
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NNasty, if your (obvious) personal dislike of someone/something gets in the way of rational thought, perhaps it's best left alone.

What a lot of tripe.

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Old 1st July 2003 | 22:11
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I apologise in advance for dredging this up, but I remember reading something about yellow ribbons and cowardice a while back...

I saw the bravest thing I have ever witnessed today in Hong Kong:

500,000 people wearing YELLOW RIBBONS protested ARTICLE 23 imminent tabling in Hong Kong's LEGCO on July 8th. It's is being called the "gravest threat ever to it's civil liberties".

Still think it's "cowardice"?
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Old 2nd July 2003 | 07:31
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Aiya! 7.14% of the total population is very brave.
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Old 2nd July 2003 | 17:12
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As usual CU too many trees not enough forest. On your assertion then about 6.2 million did not march or wear anything yellow.
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Old 2nd July 2003 | 17:27
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...oh dear, dear, dear!!!...

you guys have major problems!...

you all need a decent kick up the backsides!!!
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Old 2nd July 2003 | 17:53
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Can anyone reading this forum really want to join CX? Most contributors appear to be pompous t*ssers entrenched in their positions, from both sides. It's generally accepted amongst those of us in the real world away from the hothouse atmosphere in HK that CX management is despicable. Equally the HKAOA must be the most spineless union in the history of aviation (with the exception of BALPA). Message to both sides:

GROW UP
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Old 2nd July 2003 | 23:07
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But then again, trying to run a Labour Union in a Communist Country whose Chief Executive has a brother on the Board of the Airline does present some special problems.
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