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Old 10th October 2000 | 11:58
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conan
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I just want to thank you all very much for extending, I'm sure that we couldn't have made it without your efforts. Totally self serving that they were.
By being such arrogant selfish Pr-cks you have set the tone for future extensions, created a mass of resentment, and generally sold everyone else down the river .
Judas comes to mind here
You didn't even have the courage to hold out for existing salary scales and conditions, You are pathetic, and need to be treated like the pariahs that you are.
Retirement will be a lonely affair when no-one from the company wants to have anything to do with you
I don't think that anyone would have objected if you had done it in conjuntion with the AOA or even if you had held out for A scales, but you sold your souls for a few shekels, I hope you find it was worth it!
 
Old 10th October 2000 | 13:45
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Angel

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Old 10th October 2000 | 14:48
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Conan well said, I couldn't have put it more aptly myself.
 
Old 10th October 2000 | 18:27
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ATCHUNG

An extract from our "leader"...kb.

The Officers being extended /bend over/ will help with this flexibility /bend over/ There will be no reduction in the number of upgrades at all /bend over/ and bypass salary /bend over/ and benefits will be paid as per Conditions of Service. The extensions /bend over/ are for one year /bend over/ and they have been offered based on a reduction /bend over/ in Conditions of Service /big bend over/ to B Scale /bend over/ salaries

but at the same seniority point on the salary scale /bend over/

Whaa?? who gives a f**k.

I /bend over/ will continue to review our /bend over/ operating plan /bend over/ and extension offers /bend over/ may be made to /bend over/ other /bend over/ Captains on a /bend over/ case by /bend over/ case basis.

BEND OVER

DO NOT not fly with these “over-extended” jerk-offs !!!!!!!!

THIS IS ABOUT AS CLEAR AS IT GETS AS TO managements'/bend over/ INTENTIONS


 
Old 10th October 2000 | 18:55
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It is very simply. These old loosers are nothing but a bunch of scabs!!

If you are reading this you loosers, everyone is talking about you in a very negative way.

You may fly with cowards who say they agree with you, but they don't.

Peter L.S you are a joke!
 
Old 10th October 2000 | 21:30
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That is now Peter L.S.S (Scab-Smith or Smith-Scab)

You would have thought someone with 2 Fathers would have had more sense than to accept a further paycut just to screw the whole aircrew group over.
 
Old 11th October 2000 | 00:33
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L/S and Buttman, you two have really gone OTT. Keep it up and I GUARANTEE that the thread will be closed. Your comments are libellous and ill-considered. The AOA has it in hand, there is NO NEED to add your comments.

See that little "edit" icon? Use it.
 
Old 11th October 2000 | 05:59
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Hey Kubota;
Lighten up! The moderators have that job. The AOA does have it in hand I agree but these guys need to know what the word is. They need to be thinking about it everyday. They need to realize that everyone they fly with hates to be there. They need to know that it was a very bad decision to do what they did. I don't think there is anything libellous on this post, if there was the capable guys looking after it would have done something.
 
Old 11th October 2000 | 06:54
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Perhaps we all should simply NOT fly with these scabs. I know a lot of guys including myself will not. Management get ready for a bit of messing around on the old roster.

Get out you hang on scabs!!!!!
 
Old 11th October 2000 | 07:33
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Kubota, perhaps you are a Captain thinking of an extension and don't like to hear the word scab, but the minute you accept LOWER pay in exchange for a longer than projected career you are a scab.

They are undermining the careers of everybody else. What airline pays their senior pilots less?
 
Old 11th October 2000 | 13:01
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Better than that, PLS has just applied for a base swop back to HKG for next year.

Who is the idiot who has agreed to swop with him ?
 
Old 11th October 2000 | 14:28
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Probably the next one on the list who is waiting for the first available slot. The one that PLS is presently preventing anyone attaining!! Great system isn't it
 
Old 11th October 2000 | 14:51
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Question

1. Why did Dyball,Rowe and BARLEY extend on 'A'scales?
2.Where in our COS (sic) does it cover extending pilots on reduced conditions?
3.Why is Mr L-S still holding a Base slot that should go to the first on the waiting list?

[This message has been edited by jagman (edited 11 October 2000).]
 
Old 11th October 2000 | 16:35
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Maybe i'm a little stupid, but can someone tell me why these extenders, that are staying on to help YOU guys train and get your upgrades quicker,are doing the wrong thing?
 
Old 11th October 2000 | 17:11
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Not because they are staying which, if bypass is paid is completely legitimate, but because they have allowed the company to attack & undermine the conditions (yet again) of those on A-scale and undermined the aspirations of those on B-scale. Those aspirations, of course, are to get rid of B-scale.

The company sees it as its job to "press to test" on these things - it failed with B-scale training because people said NO.

These four said YES to the detriment of the rest of us.


 
Old 12th October 2000 | 07:23
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Dyball is still kicking around?
 
Old 12th October 2000 | 07:26
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Whats worse, PLS has applied for a base swop to come to HKG next year.

What I want to know is what idiot agreed to swop with him ? He needs talking to too.
 
Old 12th October 2000 | 07:27
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Whats worse, PLS has applied for a base swop to come to HKG next year.

What I want to know is what idiot agreed to swop with him ? He needs talking to too.
 
Old 12th October 2000 | 15:37
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Firstly, I am not a captain, but someone fairly low down in the seniority list. I would like very much to proceed up the list quickly, but am not childish enough to start insulting perfectly nice people because of a career decision. Nobody works for the benefit of others. They work so that they can provide the best they can for themselves and their family. So, they have reached that age of 55. Too old to do anything? Perhaps they should sit in wheelchairs and line up at the post office to collect their pensions? How about continuing to improve their standard of living and ensure a better retirement when they feel they are ready for it?

Isn't it sad to end your career, doing something you love, when you are perfectly capable of doing it some more?

How many of us would seriously retire from doing something which we love? Something which we get paid to do, when there is still a few years in us? I bet many people would like to continue but fear the wrath of the other crew. That's sad.

I say grow up. None of this is very professional.
 
Old 12th October 2000 | 20:17
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"...Isn't it sad to end your career, doing something you love, when you are perfectly capable of doing it some more?..."

I'm not sure I'm reading this from someone "down the list"...truly get yourself a fresh sheet of paper and some different colour crayons me boy

Yes it's true that these "professionals" might train up a few F/O's and S/O's, but if they're so desperately needed, one would think they would pay them the going rate. "A" scale and not a centime less. Hell maybe they should command a higher rate if they stave off ruin and disaster for cx.

Recognize this for what it is, my friends. They are screwing us once again. PERIOD. Read the /bend over/ comments above if you're in need of further clarification.

 


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