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744 rumour
Heard a little rumour that a 744 recently ended up at 500' at 60 degrees angle of bank - at 7 miles fianls to 07L!
Sounds sporty. Any one know any more?
Sounds sporty. Any one know any more?
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"Cathay disciplines pilots for "sporty" landing"
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_d...127&intcatid=1
Cathay Pacific Airways has disciplined the flight crew of a Boeing 747-400 passenger jet after what one insider said was a ``sporty'' approach to Hong Kong International Airport late last month.
The Civil Aviation Department confirmed that the captain and first officer ignored the advice of air traffic controllers.
As a result, the aircraft had to make a 60-degree turn just 500 feet above the choppy waters of the Pearl River estuary so that it could land safely on the airport's northern runway. Angelique Tam, Cathay Pacific manager of corporate communications, confirmed that an incident had taken place.
Cathay Pacific Airways has disciplined the flight crew of a Boeing 747-400 passenger jet after what one insider said was a ``sporty'' approach to Hong Kong International Airport late last month.
The Civil Aviation Department confirmed that the captain and first officer ignored the advice of air traffic controllers.
As a result, the aircraft had to make a 60-degree turn just 500 feet above the choppy waters of the Pearl River estuary so that it could land safely on the airport's northern runway. Angelique Tam, Cathay Pacific manager of corporate communications, confirmed that an incident had taken place.
Maybe at long last they will finally do something about those split duties....other than just sending out notices reinforcing the need to fly missionary position.
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Your Honour, may I call to the stand, the learned 411A, an expert in all things avition, the paragon of aeronautical wisdom, whose unbiased, and insightful words may well part the curtains for the unknowing amongst us.
cue trumpet fanfare, and much muffled discussion amongst all in attendance
cue trumpet fanfare, and much muffled discussion amongst all in attendance
SC
With no inferences to anyone real or imaginary and apologies to Lear.
The Owl and the Pussy-Cat took off from Manila
In a beautiful plane, pea-green and vanilla
No time for any sleep,
And without a peep
They wrap it up to three five o .
The Owl looked up the appropriate STAR,
And sang a short PA,
"What terrible weather, O Pussy, my love,
What terrible weather down there,
Down there,
Down there!
What terrible weather down there!"
Pussy said to the Owl, "You're flying foul,
What alarms have you triggered now!
Oh! let us be worried;
too long we have tarried:
But what do we do when they ring?"
They went away, for a year with less pay,
To the land where the simulator goes;
And there in a hood they tried to make good,
By correctly pointing the nose,
The nose,
The nose,
By correctly pointing the nose.
"Dear Owl, are you willing to stop turning on a shilling
and maintain profile and heading?" To the DFO, "I will."
So they worked away, and were re-endorsed next day
By the Turkey who lives on the hill.
They ate humble pie, but at least can still fly
If only the freighter to Mumbai and Dubai;
Mumbai
Dubai
And hand in hand as they are about to land
They usually decide to go around,
Go around,
They usually decide to go around.
With no inferences to anyone real or imaginary and apologies to Lear.
The Owl and the Pussy-Cat took off from Manila
In a beautiful plane, pea-green and vanilla
No time for any sleep,
And without a peep
They wrap it up to three five o .
The Owl looked up the appropriate STAR,
And sang a short PA,
"What terrible weather, O Pussy, my love,
What terrible weather down there,
Down there,
Down there!
What terrible weather down there!"
Pussy said to the Owl, "You're flying foul,
What alarms have you triggered now!
Oh! let us be worried;
too long we have tarried:
But what do we do when they ring?"
They went away, for a year with less pay,
To the land where the simulator goes;
And there in a hood they tried to make good,
By correctly pointing the nose,
The nose,
The nose,
By correctly pointing the nose.
"Dear Owl, are you willing to stop turning on a shilling
and maintain profile and heading?" To the DFO, "I will."
So they worked away, and were re-endorsed next day
By the Turkey who lives on the hill.
They ate humble pie, but at least can still fly
If only the freighter to Mumbai and Dubai;
Mumbai
Dubai
And hand in hand as they are about to land
They usually decide to go around,
Go around,
They usually decide to go around.
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Well done, VR-HFX....but I must sound a warning..
With such an obvious talent for doggerel, (for Edward Lear is regarded as management 101 for CX), you may find yourself drinking from the poisoned chalice if you're not careful...........
With such an obvious talent for doggerel, (for Edward Lear is regarded as management 101 for CX), you may find yourself drinking from the poisoned chalice if you're not careful...........
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You know guys it has ever impressed me how we aviators are so quick to hang each other out to dry after an error, remember pilot error. We must be the only professional body that doesn't close ranks or professionally support each other (whoops here come the pit bulls re 49ers lol - but that was personal not professional). This was a nasty incident, no doubt, it will be thoroughly investigated and the report will be factual and complete. The company will learn, the crew has learnt and we will all benefit from this scary wake up call - I am glad it had as happy an ending as it did. 100% certain many of us will make mistakes on our flights today.
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How right you are.
Levity in doggerel was for our friend the feline.
I would be the first to own up to finger trouble of the kind that I think may have occurred in this case. My only hope is that it will finally bring an end to the stupid split duty regimen.
How right you are.
Levity in doggerel was for our friend the feline.
I would be the first to own up to finger trouble of the kind that I think may have occurred in this case. My only hope is that it will finally bring an end to the stupid split duty regimen.
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Not so long ago the 'no blame culture' was espoused as the epitome of professional safe airlines. Of course we all know there is no such thing as a completely non blame environment - at least in our profession. Nonetheless recent examples have clearly indicated that our airline is in the least fair following incidents of reported error. To be frank, that's all I ask, a fair hearing from my peers and I am with you in this VR-HFX, come clean and cop your dues, just as the professional, capable and extremely pleasant captain did on this occasion.