Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Terms and Endearment
Reload this Page >

Whats the score with a 'dual base'? Jet2.com.

Wikiposts
Search
Terms and Endearment The forum the bean counters hoped would never happen. Your news on pay, rostering, allowances, extras and negotiations where you work - scheduled, charter or contract.

Whats the score with a 'dual base'? Jet2.com.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 29th Jan 2006, 18:34
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Exeter
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Whats the score with a 'dual base'? Jet2.com.

A friend of mine has been offered a job with Jet2.com but it is dual based with both Blackpool and Manchester.
Can this be done in the CAA's eyes - I hear that another company tried to do it with Glasgow and Edinburgh and the CAA put a stop to it.
tripilot is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2006, 18:57
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Most Airlines that operate a dual base policy (the CAA are happy with dual basings providing the criteria is met) offer dual bases to "volunteers".
Clearly your friend is being "volunteered" on the back end of a job offer. If he lives in Leeds (1 hr 30hrs away from MAN) but a lot longer to BLK then this is where the problem starts. Unfortunately the onus is then on him to find local accommodation to BLK.
If he was already working for Jet 2 then he may have a leg to stand on.
Thomsonfly have dual based crews between MAN + LPL but they mostly live around LPL I think.
Banzai Eagle is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2006, 09:12
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 190
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is your friend a new FO or captain and on what fleet? Just wondered if there only pushing this on Fo's rather than captains.

S.C.
Sky_Captain is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2006, 15:30
  #4 (permalink)  
Master Baiter
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Location: Middle Earth
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Are Manchester and Blackpool that far apart? Other airlines bus people about.
Is this the same sort of thing?
Nearly Man is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2006, 17:47
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Exeter
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My mate is an F.O. so I don't know if it's captains too but I can't imagine that it'll just be F.O.'s.
tripilot is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2006, 18:08
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: EGKK
Age: 42
Posts: 599
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Do Jet2 "dual base" LBA / MAN pilots as well?

If you lived somewhere between the two, that wouldn't be at all unfeasable.
Localiser Green is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2006, 18:55
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nearly Man
Not really because if your dual based you;
Drive to each base at nil cost to the Airline
Report at STD - minus the reporting time whereas if you "bussed" you would reprt earlier, or worst case night stop
Banzai Eagle is offline  
Old 2nd Feb 2006, 10:17
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm guessing it's 737's out of Blackpool?

I also heard something about dual basing but thought it was 20%/80% so you get a main base and just do the odd flight out of a second base.

Anyone know if Jet2 are basing crew out of Blackpool full time?
Elixir is offline  
Old 3rd Feb 2006, 15:29
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Virgin tried this on with LHR and LGW until the CAA put a stop to it. They had to nominate one airport as the main base, chose LHR and all rosters have to reflect the report base. If pilots are operating a flight out of LGW their flight duty report time is at LHR and includes transport to LGW of 1 hour. Not such a big deal for most long haul flights except those two crew operations to Florida which use the Florida 2 agreement.

Pilots don't have to actually report at LHR if they are operating out of LGW but their flight duty period starts at the scheduled report time at LHR. Eg. LGW-BGI, STD 1000Z. Crew brief at LGW = STD -1:30 at 0830Z. Rostered flight duty report time 0730Z at LHR. Someone living closer to LGW just has to make sure that they report at LGW for the crew brief at 0830Z but their flight duty started at 0730Z.

Be interesting to see how long Jet2 are allowed to get away with that one. Anyone know who their CAA Flight Operations Inspector is?
arewenearlythereyet? is offline  
Old 3rd Feb 2006, 22:13
  #10 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Exeter
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Interesting that the RAC driving time between LGW and LHR is 43mins and the times betwen MAN and BPL are 1hr 1min. If this is one of the requirements of the CAA then the MAN/BPL system will soon be knocked on the head by the CAA. Does anyone know of what the other requirements are?
tripilot is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2006, 12:59
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: FR IT UK
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don't BA have dual based,LGW and LHR ,777 pilots too? there might be different rules for LH operations..
clearfortheoption is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2006, 13:05
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don't BA have dual based,LGW and LHR ,777 pilots too? there might be different rules for LH operations..
Yes they do. Flight duty starts at report at wherever you are...

Not sure of the truth behind the Virgin comment above - is this not because they provide free transport between LHR & LGW, but parking at just one base ? Not sure....

BA provide parking at LHR & LGW.
sleepy head is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.