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Lokki 19th Feb 2017 21:42

Cheapest FI course in Europe?
 
I'm looking for the cheapest FI course in Europe. I'll consider anywhere!!!

BEagle 19th Feb 2017 21:49


Location: Yorkshire
:hmm:

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bingofuel 19th Feb 2017 21:50

Price over quality.......

zero1 20th Feb 2017 10:20

In the U.K. The price seems to average out at about £8500 or there abouts. Mr BEagle where abouts in Yorkshire can you find a good quality FI course?

Dufo 20th Feb 2017 11:05

http://www.janezlet.si/en


6000€.

memories of px 20th Feb 2017 16:49

andrewsfield in essex, about 6500 and a discount for up front.

Duchess_Driver 20th Feb 2017 18:34

Have to admit, you get what you pay for..... interviewed a couple of candidates from supposedly reputable schools in Eastern Europe.... not impressive performances as far as the teaching and learning side of things was concerned.

I say again, Carol at Andrewsfield, Eva at The Pilot Centre and Caroline at Booker Aviation...

DD

Yorkshire...PMSL

Ihatemondays 22nd Feb 2017 22:26

Royal star aero, Poland. 3500 euros. You'll finish fast. Dont expect to learn much.

snchater 23rd Feb 2017 07:09


Originally Posted by zero1 (Post 9681861)
In the U.K. The price seems to average out at about £8500 or there abouts. Mr BEagle where abouts in Yorkshire can you find a good quality FI course?

Advanced Flight Training at Sherburn - talk to Kevin Rowall (HoT), superb instructor.

maximus610 24th Feb 2017 09:02

FI ? Flight Instructor | Regional Air SchoolRegional Air School

4050€ - 30h on DA20

gerpols 25th Feb 2017 09:54

I tried to contact the regional-air-school in Romania.
The E-mail: [email protected] does not exist or the box is full !
The phone doesn`t work either 004241694402
Do you know if the school is still operating ?
Thx

GP

Whopity 25th Feb 2017 10:11

Whilst there is an EASA syllabus supposedly followed by all States, the way a FI Course is run differs considerably from one State to another. The differences are largely historic and reflect the origins of aviation in that State, as well as current business opportunities.
If you want to teach in a specific State then you would be well advised to train there.

Cheap FI course are like buying cheap tools, they are seldom good value for money.

S-Works 25th Feb 2017 11:10

You get what you pay for..........

I can do it in Jerez for you, UK school. I can also recommend Ontrack who are superb, Aunty Carol over at Andrewsfield is another great one.

Chose your school on reputation and quality not on price. Its no good having the qualification if it cant get you work because you don't meet the standard. I am recruiting in Northants for FIs and have very exacting expectations.......

B737C525 25th Feb 2017 19:43

Bose is hinting at the abysmal standards shown by many FI candidates in my recent experience of interviewing/selecting them (we're recruiting too, but in the south-east).

Advice to the OP is to study very hard before going on the course, to get all of the PPL subjects utterly squared away, and then to choose the best FI course available, ideally not with one of the old guard of FIC instructors who have yet to move with the times.

There are good jobs available for good FIs at present, and a very disappointing number of FI employment candidates who are simply unemployable.

B737C525 25th Feb 2017 20:11

I honestly don't think I need to.

Whopity 26th Feb 2017 10:34


There seem to be fewer requirements to start the course.
I have just compared the Prerequisites for an AFI Qualification 1993 with the EASA requirements 2016; there are no significant differences. Except that it is now possible to do an FI Course without CPL TK but the privileges are restricted to instruction for the LAPL Only!

Has the syllabus and air exercises changed significantly?
Having compared the AOPA AFI Syllabus 1988 with the EASA Syllabus 2016 the major difference is the increase from 55 hours Theoretical Knowledge Training to 125 hours which occured in 1999. This introduced a 25 hour Teaching and Learning module. The Air Exercise syllabus is largely identical apart from some exercise number changes.

There are two distinct methods of FIC Instruction. Those who follow RAF methods from the 1950s and those who use the revised RAF methods of the 1990s.

l10fly 26th Feb 2017 12:02

On-Track's Instructor Manual (EASA Edition) is up to date & OK.

Flying Training|Instructor|Examiner|Formation|CPL|Aerobatics

Whopity 26th Feb 2017 12:05


Is there a guide you can recommend for the latest methods.
There is a Manual here available in Sections

S-Works 26th Feb 2017 16:17

Just bear in mind that being a LAPL only FI is akin to a chocolate teapot. I won't recruit them as they are basically useless to us. We only teach LAPL as a conversion route or as a last resort where an individual has a limit that prevents a full PPL.

I want our instructors to grow to be able to teach all our courses which include PPL, CPL, ME, IR etc. Not box them into a single course.

B737C525 26th Feb 2017 17:09

Well, it talks about 'raising the nose', so it'll do for Concorde! (For anyone who doesn't understand, the point I'm making is that we 'pitch the nose up'; 'raise the nose' is a bit slovenly).

There's an essential difficulty with this obsession with CFS: They teach intelligent young people who have been selected for exceptional ability in various tests, for drive and ambition, for enthusiasm and motivation, and for being suitably malleable. If flying schools had an endless supply of people like that, willing to part with their cash, I'd be much more interested in listening to what CFS have to say than I am now.

So far as I can tell, CFS are not experts in teaching ordinary people how to fly, and especially not in making that an enjoyable experience in itself. Away from aviation, there's a great deal more understanding of how people learn and develop skills than there was fifty years ago. Sadly, it seems to me that very little of aviation has progressed with the real world, though there are notable exceptions.

I do worry about the CFS hero-worship that goes on. It strikes me that it tends, amongst other things, to form a substantial barrier to progress.

(By the way, I don't have an agenda against CFS as a military training organisation - they may do that very well, I don't have the evidence to comment).


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