Cheapest FI course in Europe?
 

I'm looking for the cheapest FI course in Europe. I'll consider anywhere!!!

:hmm:

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Price over quality.......

In the U.K. The price seems to average out at about £8500 or there abouts. Mr BEagle where abouts in Yorkshire can you find a good quality FI course?

http://www.janezlet.si/en


6000€.

andrewsfield in essex, about 6500 and a discount for up front.

Have to admit, you get what you pay for..... interviewed a couple of candidates from supposedly reputable schools in Eastern Europe.... not impressive performances as far as the teaching and learning side of things was concerned.

I say again, Carol at Andrewsfield, Eva at The Pilot Centre and Caroline at Booker Aviation...

DD

Yorkshire...PMSL

Royal star aero, Poland. 3500 euros. You'll finish fast. Dont expect to learn much.

Advanced Flight Training at Sherburn - talk to Kevin Rowall (HoT), superb instructor.

FI ? Flight Instructor | Regional Air SchoolRegional Air School

4050€ - 30h on DA20

I tried to contact the regional-air-school in Romania.
The E-mail: [email protected] does not exist or the box is full !
The phone doesn`t work either 004241694402
Do you know if the school is still operating ?
Thx

GP

Whilst there is an EASA syllabus supposedly followed by all States, the way a FI Course is run differs considerably from one State to another. The differences are largely historic and reflect the origins of aviation in that State, as well as current business opportunities.
If you want to teach in a specific State then you would be well advised to train there.

Cheap FI course are like buying cheap tools, they are seldom good value for money.

You get what you pay for..........

I can do it in Jerez for you, UK school. I can also recommend Ontrack who are superb, Aunty Carol over at Andrewsfield is another great one.

Chose your school on reputation and quality not on price. Its no good having the qualification if it cant get you work because you don't meet the standard. I am recruiting in Northants for FIs and have very exacting expectations.......

Bose is hinting at the abysmal standards shown by many FI candidates in my recent experience of interviewing/selecting them (we're recruiting too, but in the south-east).

Advice to the OP is to study very hard before going on the course, to get all of the PPL subjects utterly squared away, and then to choose the best FI course available, ideally not with one of the old guard of FIC instructors who have yet to move with the times.

There are good jobs available for good FIs at present, and a very disappointing number of FI employment candidates who are simply unemployable.

I honestly don't think I need to.

I have just compared the Prerequisites for an AFI Qualification 1993 with the EASA requirements 2016; there are no significant differences. Except that it is now possible to do an FI Course without CPL TK but the privileges are restricted to instruction for the LAPL Only!
Having compared the AOPA AFI Syllabus 1988 with the EASA Syllabus 2016 the major difference is the increase from 55 hours Theoretical Knowledge Training to 125 hours which occured in 1999. This introduced a 25 hour Teaching and Learning module. The Air Exercise syllabus is largely identical apart from some exercise number changes.

There are two distinct methods of FIC Instruction. Those who follow RAF methods from the 1950s and those who use the revised RAF methods of the 1990s.

On-Track's Instructor Manual (EASA Edition) is up to date & OK.

Flying Training|Instructor|Examiner|Formation|CPL|Aerobatics

There is a Manual here available in Sections

Just bear in mind that being a LAPL only FI is akin to a chocolate teapot. I won't recruit them as they are basically useless to us. We only teach LAPL as a conversion route or as a last resort where an individual has a limit that prevents a full PPL.

I want our instructors to grow to be able to teach all our courses which include PPL, CPL, ME, IR etc. Not box them into a single course.

Well, it talks about 'raising the nose', so it'll do for Concorde! (For anyone who doesn't understand, the point I'm making is that we 'pitch the nose up'; 'raise the nose' is a bit slovenly).

There's an essential difficulty with this obsession with CFS: They teach intelligent young people who have been selected for exceptional ability in various tests, for drive and ambition, for enthusiasm and motivation, and for being suitably malleable. If flying schools had an endless supply of people like that, willing to part with their cash, I'd be much more interested in listening to what CFS have to say than I am now.

So far as I can tell, CFS are not experts in teaching ordinary people how to fly, and especially not in making that an enjoyable experience in itself. Away from aviation, there's a great deal more understanding of how people learn and develop skills than there was fifty years ago. Sadly, it seems to me that very little of aviation has progressed with the real world, though there are notable exceptions.

I do worry about the CFS hero-worship that goes on. It strikes me that it tends, amongst other things, to form a substantial barrier to progress.

(By the way, I don't have an agenda against CFS as a military training organisation - they may do that very well, I don't have the evidence to comment).

Hmmm, yes, and the sentence before: 'During the entry, ensure that rudder is used to prevent yaw when the throttle is closed'. Should we not do that at other times, too, when the throttle is not closed?

Oh, they mean, 'Use rudder to maintain balance while you reduce power'. Why not say?

On the previous page: 'LOCATION “ABCCD”- Not above Active airfields, Built up areas, Controlled airspace, clear of Cloud (maintain VMC) and Danger areas (equally applies to prohibited and restricted areas).' So, not above controlled airspace? Not above clear of cloud?

Communication is the foundation of teaching. It needs to be precise, unambiguous, brief, and clear.

In fairness, the guide does say:

'In this Lesson Guide the lessons are based on the following assumptions:
I. The student has good aptitude and natural ability and will be conducting the training on a regular basis, possibly full-time.'

...and for that reason alone, I might be inclined to discount it for the majority of PPL training.

FI Course Jerez
 

Bose-x, I must agree with what you say concerning choosing a school on reputation and quality, instead of price.
My question to all....
Which FTO is the best in Jerez to do the FI Course, FTE or Fly in Spain Jerez ?
Thanks !

GP

FTE don't run FI courses......

It all depends on where the new instructor did his FI course, ********'s current patter notes talk about raising the nose, and Ron Campbell's bible,
the Instructor Manual says raise the nose, so it depends on where you did the FI course whether you say pitch up or raise the nose, nothing to do with being slovenly.
The most important point is to give a good demonstration, after all, hearing is one of the first things that go by the wayside for a new pupil, the semantics of pitch or raise lost as he repeats to himself PAT PAT PAT !
I was talking to a pupil not long ago, and he was asking me the correct climb speed for the 152, as at his school, he had flown with two instructors
both teaching different speeds! these are the things that need to be standard in an organization.

Just blowing the dust off RAF Air Publication 1732 dated june 1939, Principles of Flying Instruction, funnily enough 1-9 are in the same order, but no mention of stalling, straight to spinning!