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pipertommy 9th Jul 2008 14:20

So how is trade during the downturn?Busy?
 
Hi,
Just wondered how the turn over on PPL instructing is doing during these though times? Has there been a reduction in students? Or trial lessons?
Or is it business as usual!

Thanks for any input:)
PT

Deano777 9th Jul 2008 17:10

Well I'm instructing 1 day a week and we've seen an upturn in new PPLs who have signed up, this is all with a fuel surcharge as well. Trial lessons are about the same level, so in effect we haven't seen any change as yet, infact it's slightly better.

D777

pipertommy 9th Jul 2008 17:14

Thanks
 
Music to my ears Deano!! Need to get flying again finished the commercial training few months back, now for the FI me thinks:ok:
Happy flying:)

pipertommy 10th Jul 2008 06:49

No other opinions?

duveldrinker 10th Jul 2008 08:06

over the past year I only saw the groups getting bigger. Each class now consists of at least 20 students (not PPL but fATPL courses).

TurboJ 10th Jul 2008 15:10

I'm only a part time FI, but to be honest I've never been busier !!

Downturn ? What downturn ??

TJ

greggx101 10th Jul 2008 18:28

Maybe its a little early - wait untill potential students realize they cant remortgage there house again to pay off there borrowings for there training and things might change.

I hope not.

kneedwondean 11th Jul 2008 10:57

Certainly the heli PPL side and Trial lessons has slowed down. This is my full time job and this weekend I have one 1/2hr trial lesson.....:eek:

pipertommy 12th Jul 2008 13:48

Thanks for the repsonses:ok:

READY MESSAGE 12th Jul 2008 15:08

Our school seems as busy as ever, only the :mad: british weather getting in the weather!

pipertommy 12th Jul 2008 19:25

I know bloody Weather:ugh:

Duchess_Driver 12th Jul 2008 20:18

Yup...
 
...busy here too, TOO!

360 degree mason 12th Jul 2008 21:00

6 weeks plus waiting list for lessons at my school.
:\

The Wicker Man 13th Jul 2008 10:59

Well Busy
 
I think our clubs just had the busiest week I can remember for some time:)

ZeBedie 13th Jul 2008 19:12

I was instructing when the 80's recession took hold. Boy did it go quiet then.

TheOddOne 13th Jul 2008 21:48


...busy here too, TOO!
Thanks, Duchess. I know, Chris said...

Did 3 full details today, with a late start, plus a solo.

TheOddOne

Duchess_Driver 13th Jul 2008 21:55

TOO.....lightweight!

Didn't stop today. Flew three full exercises, one T/L, two pre-solo checks out to P. Ris and sent a seventh off QXC as I'd flown with him on Friday.

Only time for one cuppa today.

flybymike 14th Jul 2008 23:10

You guys should try working in the property and construction sector. The turnover of my 38 year old business is down 60% :eek: in the last six months :rolleyes:

pipertommy 18th Jul 2008 14:49

Thanks for all the replys:ok:

soay 20th Jul 2008 10:59

In case the downturn does come, here are some tips that may help some of you with your CVs: ;)
  • The plural of reply is replies.
  • Their belongings are over there.
  • turn over is what you might do in bed.
  • turnover is the amount of business transacted during a given period of time.
  • though times should be tough times.
  • infact should be in fact.
  • untill should be until.
Thankfully, nobody used of as a verb, as in: you should of seen the bad spelling in this forum!

Given that it may be one of you guys who eventually has to sign me off for my competence in English, the anonymity of PPRuNe has a lot to recommend it. :ok:

flybymike 20th Jul 2008 17:26

Ittiz fort ov as gud manors not to menshun peeples spellin and grammer on the forrum.

pipertommy 20th Jul 2008 21:58

Thanks for the spelling corrections soay:rolleyes:

ERIK C 26th Jul 2008 11:20

Hallo hallo
 
Flybymike,
you're not making fun of the Germans, are you? :}
Here in Southern Spain lots of instructing. ISA+20 and more...:cool:

pipertommy 26th Jul 2008 13:40

Hot hot hot!!

flybymike 26th Jul 2008 22:47

Erik C. The Eastenders maybe, but nevver Ze Germans

pipertommy 12th Sep 2008 21:38

Hows things looking on the turn over of students ? Any change on demand?

2close 14th Sep 2008 13:13

My last FI position (recently finished to move to a new one next week) has recently seen a major drop in mid-week bookings but weekends are as mental as ever.

soay, you are my hero (in the loosest possible interpretation of the word!). Using 'of' instead of 'have' seems to be the norm these days - but then again, languages are very dynamic.

Applecore 14th Sep 2008 18:35

want bad grammer - try here

YouTube - Bad Grammar - The Way I Are Parody ft. HotforWords

EGBKFLYER 14th Sep 2008 20:11

Good link!:ok:

will fly for food 06 15th Sep 2008 09:42

Im fully booked about a month in advance. Its amazing how many new people are coming in and signing up to do a PPL. What I have also found interesting is the surge this summer of PPL holders at our club getting trained on complex,tail wheel etc:ok:
If only the weather wasnt so bad:ugh:

Deano777 15th Sep 2008 10:53

Demand? we've gone through the roof recently, almost from a few slots a day to fully booked, it is rather bizarre.

pipertommy 15th Sep 2008 11:22

Thanks
 
It is strange? I only ask as i`m starting a FI course this month and wondered what the trend at other schools are.
Must still be people out there with a healthy bank account.
Thanks again for taking the time to post:ok:

smith 29th Sep 2008 08:59

Yes, the use of "of" instead of "have" or "off", "to" instead of "too" and "there" instead of "their" really gets on my ( . )( . )'s on psrune (professional spellers rumour network).

The one that really gets me and I notice it all the time on here is "proberbly" instead of "probably".

Fireboy 30th Sep 2008 15:42

I'm part time and last week I worked Thur, Fri, Sat and Sun, I didn't stop!! Busy busy busy.

Smith: Who cares about the spelling, it's only a forum.

Duchess_Driver 30th Sep 2008 17:57

Yep, still busy...
 
I did 70 hours PPL and 10 IMC last month.

IIRC it's about the same as last year (and I had a couple of days off).


Fireboy....'tis all about standards. However, I fear that the journey has already begun down the slippery slope!

Fireboy 30th Sep 2008 20:10

You're missing the point, this is a forum not an English lesson.

I just laugh at the people who insist on correcting other peoples spelling mistakes. We all make mistakes in life and spelling mistakes on forums are at the bottom of my list of priorities !

My advice is get a life and post something constructive.

Sorry for going off track but it needed to be said.

Duchess_Driver 3rd Oct 2008 12:12

Oh, okay....It's a fourhm, is it. If spellinge dusent matta peepul struggel to undastand wots beying sed.

If have this argument with my daughter over text speak all the time.

Let's take your argument a little further shall we. It's okay to fly the aeroplane overweight - because it's just a few lbs. It's okay to fly the ILS a dot or so low? .....or land a few knots slow?

What is the point in having 'standards and rules' if no-one upholds them? Where does this "it's only a" stop?

Now, I wasn't the one who started the spelling correction - but I do agree with it wholeheartedly. As for my life.....pretty fulfilled upto now, don't think I need to get another one just yet.

Parson 3rd Oct 2008 16:27

Drifting off topic, but well said DD. Poor spelling and grammar doesn't improve the image of the professional pilot, either.

You can argue that it doesn't matter a lot on here, but what happens when it comes to preparing CVs and covering letters?

VFE 3rd Oct 2008 16:40

Ain't seen no downturn yet.... maybe people are cutting back on borrowing, petrol guzzling carz and the odd weekend away instead of their flying lessons? I reckon trial flying lessuns will be the last to go if this recesshun really takes hold as predicted.

In the meantime I wish the weather would behave a bit more but maybe in a roundabouit way its keepin the students hooked - if it woz sunny every time they had a lessun booked theyd be runnin out of cash innit.

VFE. [sic!]

bnn242/12 6th Oct 2008 13:12

English
 
So, are you (rostbif) spelling police going to explain in perfect French or German to the Jonnie foreigners who post here?

Thought not:ok:.


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