SEP revalidation by experience before second year
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SEP revalidation by experience before second year
Is it possible to revalidate a SEP rating by experience during the first year of the rating?
This would of course mean 'resetting' the validity period to run from the end of the month in which the revalidation takes place, and achieving the requisite hours etc.
Example would be someone who has done enough hours in the first year, then towards the end of that year is sent overseas for a year and wouldn't be able to fly enough during the second year. Could they revalidate early, to reset the two year validity period and avoid having to renew, rather than revalidate, on return?
This would of course mean 'resetting' the validity period to run from the end of the month in which the revalidation takes place, and achieving the requisite hours etc.
Example would be someone who has done enough hours in the first year, then towards the end of that year is sent overseas for a year and wouldn't be able to fly enough during the second year. Could they revalidate early, to reset the two year validity period and avoid having to renew, rather than revalidate, on return?

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Common sense says yes, wording of the regulation not so much. But I think you would have a good argument:
Option 1 is that you MUST pass a proficiency check within the 3 months immediately before the ratings expiry date. Think about that wording. It implies that you CANNOT take a proficiency check at any other time, only month 22, 23 or 24. That is clearly bo11ocks because I'm pretty sure you can take another PC any time you like and reset your validity.
We must assume therefore that what they actually mean is: "If you want to keep your original expiry date, then the PC must be done in the last 3 months."
Using that same logic on option 2 you could argue that the regulation is actually saying: : "If you want to keep your original expiry date, it must be done in the final 12 months preceeding the expiry date" Because you wish to revalidate early, you are effectively changing the expiry date and thus the final 12 months should be whatever period you want them to be.
Option 1 is that you MUST pass a proficiency check within the 3 months immediately before the ratings expiry date. Think about that wording. It implies that you CANNOT take a proficiency check at any other time, only month 22, 23 or 24. That is clearly bo11ocks because I'm pretty sure you can take another PC any time you like and reset your validity.
We must assume therefore that what they actually mean is: "If you want to keep your original expiry date, then the PC must be done in the last 3 months."
Using that same logic on option 2 you could argue that the regulation is actually saying: : "If you want to keep your original expiry date, it must be done in the final 12 months preceeding the expiry date" Because you wish to revalidate early, you are effectively changing the expiry date and thus the final 12 months should be whatever period you want them to be.
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There used to be a condition in JAR-FCL 1 barring an applicant from exercising rating privileges when they failed a prof check that was attempted before the expiry date of the rating. I don't see a similar rule in Part-FCL, at least for aeroplane class ratings!

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You can only revalidate by experience during the second year of rating validity, otherwise you can do a proficiency check at any time. If you pass a proficiency check within the last 3 months of validity then then original expiry date is preserved, otherwise a new expiry date is calculated.
Reference: CAA Standards Document 14, Section 4, Paragraph 4.2. (Details forfeiture of the remaining validity if you complete the proficiency check early).
FCL.740.A(b)(1)(ii) only has provision for revalidation by experience within the 12 months preceding the expiry date of the rating.
https://regulatorylibrary.caa.co.uk/...aeroplanes.htm
Reference: CAA Standards Document 14, Section 4, Paragraph 4.2. (Details forfeiture of the remaining validity if you complete the proficiency check early).
FCL.740.A(b)(1)(ii) only has provision for revalidation by experience within the 12 months preceding the expiry date of the rating.
https://regulatorylibrary.caa.co.uk/...aeroplanes.htm
Last edited by Arrow Flyer; 6th April 2025 at 14:31. Reason: CAA Standards Doc 14 Reference

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FCL.1030(b)(1):
(1)[...] In the event of a partial pass or fail, the examiner shall inform the applicant that he/she may not exercise the privileges of the rating until a full pass has been obtained. The examiner shall detail any further training requirement and explain the applicant’s right of appeal;

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All this nonsense is a complete waste of time. All that you need do, on returning to the UK, is do a single one off flight with an examiner and your done. Common sense should tell that no flying club will hire you an aeroplane without currency being met.
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Thanks for the replies.
Rudestuff, that's how I interpret it, however Arrow Flyer's input/link bears thinking about.
Fl1ingfrog, all well and good in the home counties no doubt, but not always so easy in the Highlands, and currency/renting not the question - many have their own aircraft, or shares.
Rudestuff, that's how I interpret it, however Arrow Flyer's input/link bears thinking about.
Fl1ingfrog, all well and good in the home counties no doubt, but not always so easy in the Highlands, and currency/renting not the question - many have their own aircraft, or shares.




