25% of training required
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25% of training required
can an examiner only teach a student for 6.25 hours, ie 25% of the 25 hours required, if he is going to do the skilltest, or is it 25% of whatever he needs??
An interesting question required a definition of "training required" I understand; but have not seen it written anywhere, that the CAA see it as you have interpreted it, rather than the more logical assumption that it is 25% of the total traing required to pass the Skill Test.
I raised this topic at an EASA meeting nearly 3 years ago at which the participants agreed that the wording was ambiguous:
But RMT.0596 has now been absorbed into RMT.0194, with no NPA expected until 2020 - and no Decision before 2023....
Unofficially, the CAA advised me to tell people to use the 25% of minimum course requirements figure (i.e. 6.25 for the PPL(A)), but if more was needed than a note of explanation should be included with the application - for example, an FI went sick on the day and the only other person available was the FE who later did the Skill Test.
Outcome: The participants agreed that the 25% rule should be based on the minimum hours established in the ATO course approval. However, this issue should be reviewed by the GA task on simplifying the balloon requirements to further clarify the intent. This task is already considering changing the 25% requirement to 50%.
Post-meeting note: As the RMT.0654 on balloon licencing requirements has been, postponed until further notice, EASA will include this issue in RMT.0596 updating examiner requirements.
Post-meeting note: As the RMT.0654 on balloon licencing requirements has been, postponed until further notice, EASA will include this issue in RMT.0596 updating examiner requirements.
Unofficially, the CAA advised me to tell people to use the 25% of minimum course requirements figure (i.e. 6.25 for the PPL(A)), but if more was needed than a note of explanation should be included with the application - for example, an FI went sick on the day and the only other person available was the FE who later did the Skill Test.
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Just as i thought, but we have an examiner at our club, hes done at least X hours with the student, done his mock skilltest, recommended him for test, and last time i looked, he put himself down to do the test!!
Last edited by memories of px; 28th May 2018 at 20:20.
done his mock skilltest, recommended him for test, and last time i looked, he put himself down to do the test!!
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spot on mr average, someone else signed the 1105, havent seen the 2128, it all seems to hinge around the definition of "required hours", X hours solo and Y dual, but Z of those dual hours with the instructor/examiner, so is 25% of the total hours ok?
Last edited by memories of px; 28th May 2018 at 20:22.
25% does not include student solo time!
25% of 36 hrs dual is 9 hours, so the Examiner has ruled himself out of being able to conduct the Skill Test by a significant margin.
The only solution is that a different FE must conduct the applicant's Skill Test.
25% of 36 hrs dual is 9 hours, so the Examiner has ruled himself out of being able to conduct the Skill Test by a significant margin.
The only solution is that a different FE must conduct the applicant's Skill Test.
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well the skilltest took place as scheduled with the same examiner, and surprise surprise he passed!, that'll be £225 please, i wonder if licencing will pick it up?
