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Old 24th Apr 2017, 20:04
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FCL.900

Anybody out there working at an EASA ATO outside EU land got a FCL.900 certificate? (= permission to instruct at an overseas ATO under supervision of EASA licensed HT when holding equivalent ICAO but non-EASA licences.)
If so, from which EASA-land NAA?
Otherwise there is a sticking point. FCL.900 to be issued by The Competent Authority. For 'overseas' ATOs that is EASA itself in Koln. But no mechanism for EASA HQ to issue licences, ratings or certificates.
Another black hole in the EASA regulations......?
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The UK do it. As far as I am aware they are the only NAA to do so.
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Bose....Can you give me some more info please? By PM if you wish.
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Originally Posted by idle stop
Anybody out there working at an EASA ATO outside EU land got a FCL.900 certificate? (= permission to instruct at an overseas ATO under supervision of EASA licensed HT when holding equivalent ICAO but non-EASA licences.)
If so, from which EASA-land NAA?
Otherwise there is a sticking point. FCL.900 to be issued by The Competent Authority. For 'overseas' ATOs that is EASA itself in Koln. But no mechanism for EASA HQ to issue licences, ratings or certificates.
Another black hole in the EASA regulations......?
It isn't possible if you are an EASA ATO (i.e. a foreign ATO under direct oversight Cologne). Only an NAA can issue licences.

We are in just this situation and it is infuriating and yet another impediment of being under direct oversight.
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This was just another ill thought-out and ill-enacted bit of the EASA regulation.
The good news is that EASA HQ are aware of the problem, and are under pressure from at least two 'overseas' ATOs to come up with a solution. But meanwhile said ATOs are looking for a short-term solution.
I am aware that one NAA is issuing FCL.900s to at least 3 x ATOs.....
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Originally Posted by bose-x
The UK do it. As far as I am aware they are the only NAA to do so.
French DGAC also
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Originally Posted by idle stop
Bose....Can you give me some more info please? By PM if you wish.
The UK CAA have a commercial arm called CAA International that approves and maintains oversight on overseas schools. It is how the UK EASA training schools work overseas and as a result they use the FCL.900 permission to accept training given by non EASA Instructors.

If you are working in a school that operates under this approval then the school will organise your standardisation and approval. It is not a rating that you can get outside of a school. It is not a rating that can be exercised in any EASA country either.

I am surprised to hear the French DGAC do this as I was not aware they approved foreign schools.
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Originally Posted by S-Works
The UK CAA have a commercial arm called CAA International that approves and maintains oversight on overseas schools. It is how the UK EASA training schools work overseas and as a result they use the FCL.900 permission to accept training given by non EASA Instructors.

If you are working in a school that operates under this approval then the school will organise your standardisation and approval. It is not a rating that you can get outside of a school. It is not a rating that can be exercised in any EASA country either.

I am surprised to hear the French DGAC do this as I was not aware they approved foreign schools.
VERY late reply, but this subject has come up again and again. I believe Airbus flight training in Toulouse could be the reason why the French do it at their outstations.

Has anyone heard of an EASA FCL 900 (a) ? What is the difference?

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Originally Posted by flying jocks
VERY late reply, but this subject has come up again and again. I believe Airbus flight training in Toulouse could be the reason why the French do it at their outstations.

Has anyone heard of an EASA FCL 900 (a) ? What is the difference?
At that time the French DCAC did this for ATR Singapore also to allow them to use Malaysian instructors.
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You might find this of interest: https://www.ontrackaviation.com/FCL.900c_1000c.html
.FCL.900 (a) is the requirement to hold an appropriate Certificate such as one issue under FCL.900(c)
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EASA FCL.900(a) refers to an instructor certificate issued in accordance with Part-FCL Subpart J, such as an instructor certificate entered in Section XII of a pilot's EASA Part-FCL licence.

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