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Old 30th Mar 2015, 09:52
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Another DA / DH question?

There are several answers to this question from 2011 onwards so fear they are outdated.

Is my understanding correct as of 2015?
1) during a non-precision approach we only use a DA based on baro. The fact that the aircraft, during a go-around, may continue to descend another 50 feet during the transition to climb remains LEGAL. (MDA is no longer to be used)??

2) during an ILS all decisions to go round (at minimums) are based on radio altimeter?? Is baro used during final stages of ILS, other than gross error checks?

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1. no, (on the 737) 40 ft is added to the MDA to allow for the sink.

2. no, cat1 is baro, cat2 depends on operator i think, cat3 is radio.
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If you're referring to NPAs flown using the CDFA technique, then an allowance must be included when calculating a DA from the published MDA.

If an NPA is flown using a notional GS, but without the CDFA technique, then it will invariably be above the GS at MDA as power must be applied to level at MDA.

However, if an NPA is flown using a free-descent technique at the maximum descent gradient assumed by procedure design (where permitted), then the aircraft can be levelled at MDA until either landing criteria are achieved or the MAP is reached.

So for large CAT aircraft, the CDFA technique is now normal SOP, as it then means that only one basic SOP is required for non-LVP ops. Whereas for light GA aircraft, either the notional GS or the free-descent technique to MDA may well be preferable.

Those who use the stupid term 'duck and drive' probably have no idea that the maximum free-descent gradient assumed by procedure design is only 25% steeper than the normal notional GS....

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1. no, (on the 737) 40 ft is added to the MDA to allow for the sink
You are mixing with your company SOP..

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Cat 1 baro,cat 2/3 Radio.
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