80-100 hours a month in FL?
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From: Vancouver Island
Thank you Richard:
Not only do I use it as a sign off here, it is the very last advice I give all the pilots that I teach the art of flying to.
Unfortunately far to many pilots forget this very simple admonition and allow themselves to say yes,...... and die.
By the way it has been decades since I taught flying at the ab-initio level.
The only reason I still instruct is I am one of the very few left over from the days of the wooden ships and the iron men.
So I enjoy passing on some of the skills I have learned to those who must take over from my generation.
Cat Driver:
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The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no.
Not only do I use it as a sign off here, it is the very last advice I give all the pilots that I teach the art of flying to.
Unfortunately far to many pilots forget this very simple admonition and allow themselves to say yes,...... and die.
By the way it has been decades since I taught flying at the ab-initio level.
The only reason I still instruct is I am one of the very few left over from the days of the wooden ships and the iron men.
So I enjoy passing on some of the skills I have learned to those who must take over from my generation.
Cat Driver:
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The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no.
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From: London, England
Instructing accross the pond
Just wondered as a half spanish/half Canadian/half brit, with a JAA FI rating what I would need to be able to instruct in the US/Canada. I have Canadian citizenship.
Can I instruct JAA students without an FAA FI ticket. If not whats involved in getting one. Chuck, does Air Transport Canada require another exam to get a Canadian license?
Thanking you in advance.
Can I instruct JAA students without an FAA FI ticket. If not whats involved in getting one. Chuck, does Air Transport Canada require another exam to get a Canadian license?
Thanking you in advance.
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From: Witnesham, Suffolk
As one who recently did an IR at Naples Air Center, I have to say I found the instructors cheerful, motivated, and excellent. They chatted with students, joked, and taught superbly. The rapport between students and instructors is excellent.
Compared with other places in the US where I have tried to learn, something is right at NAC.
My instructor was 1:1 with me for most of the time. We did 3 to 4 hours a day flying, and 2 to 3 hours a day groundschool. I was tired at the end of it, but he seemed pretty chirpy.
I have no connection with NAC except as a happy punter.
Compared with other places in the US where I have tried to learn, something is right at NAC.
My instructor was 1:1 with me for most of the time. We did 3 to 4 hours a day flying, and 2 to 3 hours a day groundschool. I was tired at the end of it, but he seemed pretty chirpy.
I have no connection with NAC except as a happy punter.
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From: Utopia
Naples
I was out in Naples for 3 and a bit weeks in Oct 99 , & I have got to say having got to know the instructors reasonably well during this time ,they never complained & did nothing but praise NAC.
I felt they did work long hours but it did'nt seem to bother them nor did they seem stressed at all.
Maybe it suits everyone concerned , Business does well , satisfied customers & Instructor gets his hours in.
I can't complain.
I felt they did work long hours but it did'nt seem to bother them nor did they seem stressed at all.
Maybe it suits everyone concerned , Business does well , satisfied customers & Instructor gets his hours in.
I can't complain.
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I'm looking at a log book with 7 hrs in it for last week due to crap weather etc.!!!
If anyone can fix me up with 100hrs a month in the sun...then I'm your man!!!
Or should I say ..I'm your man
If anyone can fix me up with 100hrs a month in the sun...then I'm your man!!!
Or should I say ..I'm your man
Last edited by clear prop!!!; 13th May 2002 at 21:06.
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From: belgium
Beagle
Beagle just read this post and am interested to see if you have an answer for Richard... that is your experience with fatigue etc with instructors.
It would be interesting to have some real life experiences and effects of instructor fatigueposted , so far we havent heard from anyone posting about any problems with it.
It would be interesting to have some real life experiences and effects of instructor fatigueposted , so far we havent heard from anyone posting about any problems with it.
Last edited by approachto19; 15th May 2002 at 12:04.
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From: USA
On the comments made about fatigue, I feel much better after a day where I log between 5-7 hours than one in which I log 1.5.
The main reason for this is that to me it is far more taxing being in my cubicle, being pestered by admin people (who are not able to do my job) asking why I am not flying!
I would prefer to be flying 8hrs a day rather than sitting in my cubicle, that was one of the main reasons that I got into this job as my personality does not suit that type of work.
So to the people who say that it is better to only work 3 hours a day and sit in the office for the other 5 that is great, but to me that is the most painful working day that I could have. Would prefer to be at work 12 and fly 8.
Once again that is my 2 cents worth, and people are free to disagree!
The main reason for this is that to me it is far more taxing being in my cubicle, being pestered by admin people (who are not able to do my job) asking why I am not flying!
I would prefer to be flying 8hrs a day rather than sitting in my cubicle, that was one of the main reasons that I got into this job as my personality does not suit that type of work.
So to the people who say that it is better to only work 3 hours a day and sit in the office for the other 5 that is great, but to me that is the most painful working day that I could have. Would prefer to be at work 12 and fly 8.
Once again that is my 2 cents worth, and people are free to disagree!
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From: Oakland-California
Fatigue
Im a CFI in California, and work in an abnitio trainingprogram were we quite often push 10-14 hours a day 5-7 days a week for nine months straight.
Does the students suffer in the program?
From what ive seen, no, not to a big extent.
The ones that suffers are the instructors from a sosial aspect and the inability to expand on current knowledge because there isnt enough time to both work, sleep AND read in 24 hours.
But the passrate is very good in this school and I would without any hesitation let my students fly with my girlfriend while I were left at the ground (which is close to the highest praise I would think).
But as I said...It hinders the CFI's time to refine his skills on the theoretical level. Ive noticed lately that my own and others flightskills are very good, but the booksmarts are suffering a little.
Does the students suffer in the program?
From what ive seen, no, not to a big extent.
The ones that suffers are the instructors from a sosial aspect and the inability to expand on current knowledge because there isnt enough time to both work, sleep AND read in 24 hours.
But the passrate is very good in this school and I would without any hesitation let my students fly with my girlfriend while I were left at the ground (which is close to the highest praise I would think).
But as I said...It hinders the CFI's time to refine his skills on the theoretical level. Ive noticed lately that my own and others flightskills are very good, but the booksmarts are suffering a little.
